this guy is a huge moron for using the same aim the entire time. bothering to multi account poker but not make new aim in like 5 min just seems insane.


re: dedicated computer

The reason it's dumb to have a dedicated computer is because as poker players we don't to work for 8 hrs come home and then have our leisure time. We are often on our computer all day and it can be a mixture of business and pleasure. We also tend to travel a lot and need one do it all laptop.

i don't know if you guys are just suggesting that these guys sometimes play poker when they can't see the cards (obviously they do) but this is NOT a case of superusers. these guys contacted a decent amount of high stakes HU players and tried to scam them. they set up clones of websites that have bad software.

THEY CAN ONLY SEE THE CARDS OF PLAYERS THEY HAVE SCAMMED/HACKED.

Just checked my database, it was absolutely luckyULSA. He was a huge fish and acknowledged the fact he was a fish, asked for my AIM at the table and I obliged because I was looking forward to setting up more games with a fish. He then started asking for coaching and also asked to play me in chess and sent me that chess link. Just last week he IM'ed me again to ask me how its going and what not.

as opposed to some of the 'dumber' cheaters of the past, these guys may be mixing up their games to reduce suspicion or have some believable defense. It does look like they are a smarter bunch than your typical online poker scammers

FTP support must be really getting to the bottom of this as we speak.

You are way out of your league (as Percula demonstrated) and rather than post your unfounded opinions as fact, it were best if you kept them to yourself.

Without rehashing any of what has already been very well pointed out, how would it provide a "false sense of security?"

If someone hacks your surfing PC, unless you're dumb enough to log in to your poker email address, or have that password the same as others you use on the surfing PC, there would be no trace from the hacked surfing PC to your poker accounts and email/RB accounts.

And since this is the HS forum, just be balla, get a laptop for that ****. it's <2000$ investment in a laptop you'll use anyway to keep your hundreds of thousands safe.

How is that absurd? In the very least it's more organized, if nothing else.

It really is not that big of a deal, just setup a new computer, with a dedicated monitor, and use:

http://synergy2.****************/

one mouse, one keyboard, 2 CPUs and a dedicated monitor for it, and than 2+ monitors on your poker PC, it is what I used to do when I played limit for a living.

laptop is different obv, but setting up a VPN to your home PC and playing that way would also be a decent setup

sounds like this whole thing

that program looks cool

Synergy is awesome, I highly recommend it. I have pretty much that exact setup with 2 cpus on 2 seperate 30s linked with synergy so it only uses 1 mouse/keyboard. I do all my stupid bull**** on one computer and all my important bull**** on the other.

I also have that exact setup, except I use Input Director instead of Synergy. It's easier to set up although it isn't cross-platform (this won't matter to most people). Also, Synergy is know to have issues and it hasn't been updated in years, so you could have a look at Synergy Plus if you want to go down that route.

This is not a solution for the guys that already got scammed but for laptops there also is a simple software solution (costs you ONE extra Windows license).

Buy laptop;

Install VMWare Workstation (www.vmware.com) <- Not a scam link!
Install second workstation on VMWare. You'll now have two versions of windows running. Do all the 'fun' stuff on the VM, the serious stuff on the normal windows.

For paranoids; you can even shutdown the VM when playing poker on the 'normal' windows version on the laptop. Also, the VM can be configured to loose all changes upon exit. So if you used it for something you don't trust completely, just shutdown and choose; loose changes.

For intelligent High Stakes players it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out how to fix this yourself.

The Synergy app looks excellent for desktop PC's! (while the solution above will also work for desktops)

this is so so sick. i hate this stuff so much. something very fishy does seem to be going on and i think the sites need to possibly contact their players about ways to recognize any sort of hidden keyloggers or remote viewers. i have a buddy who mentioned some software you can have running that will alert you to any keylogger or remote viewing activity ever on your computer but i don't have the name nor know how reputable it is. perhaps a more tech saavy guy can post such a software here if one exists.

I'd recommend Kaspersky Pure.

In general, With all those ppl getting hacked, trojaned etc, why is there still a lack of professionalism. There are a few hints that make it literally impossible to get hacked.

Wrote a whole column about "security for idiots" (cuz i'm one myself) and much of that advice has been written here on the forums multiple times.

----> Good security system

----> use one computer for poker clients and software (like hem etc) and PLAYING ONLY, and have a second computer for checking mails, social sites, games, movies etc etc...

----> separate email adresses and NO xfers via chat programs. By that i mean, always call the person. Also, have only one chat programm so nobody will impersonate you on another one. Ur friends know that u only use xy.


In general i would say - and dont hate me for this - that lazyness and a lack of discipline is the reason why ppl get scammed. There is ofc variance and 100% security is an illusion. Nevertheless most of the time the victim has done something rather questionable.

One other main factor is social incompetence. Us poker players live in a different world and many ppl are very naive. Instincts in regards to something that "smells like scam" are very underdeveloped and people are trusted to easily way to fast.

p.s.: even one of my best friends is completely lazy about it although he regularly plays 5k nl... i just stopped bugging him with it. Hope he doesnt learn it the hard way

fwiw, in the scoop events i played yesterday i was seated next to WestisBestis for a few mins.

shouldnt his acc be frozen by now?

This is really sick stuff.
Those guys sure got some suspicious lookin graphs.
I'm ashamed on behalf of my fellow countrymen on this one... :/

Percula,
What do you think about using a mac and running leopard for all your casual surfing, and then use bootcamp (separate partition and os), specifically for finances/poker?

I thought this was pretty secure, but not sure if your implying otherwise from above.

Hire a programmer to tweak the trojan so that you can selectively transmit to the scammer whatever hole cards you want. Switch it on and off to keep things rolling until you burn him in a few big pots.

this would work for 1 hand

The problem there would be that many of the remote viewing software would still be able to see your VM session. Basically it would be no different than you using a Windows PC and RDP'ing (remote desktop) into your PC, then launch the VM and use it.

The reverse would be the right order. Your secure work on the installed OS and your pleasure "work" on the VM. IME remote viewing software does not bleed over into the host OS from a VM.

does anyone know a proffesional who can clean my pc and help me find out if it is hacked?

So your saying if I install a virtual machine on my computer and use that to play poker and I get a trojan on my regular windows machine a hacker could still see me playing on the VM, right?

Holy smokes this is sick stuff! Looking at those nicks at PTR and their graphs its so obvious that some serious shady stuff going on....

Im quite surprised that people are so naive with their security and money online. This happend back when there were highstakes action on prima years ago, very similar things happend there to some very familiar highstakes players.

K, I agree if I'm using VMware, and running a windows session while running leopard. However, I'm not sure this is how bootcamp works (because I have to shutdown my computer and reboot in windows, so I think I'm just running windows off of the hardware of my machine with a dedicated partition of my hardrive, and not emulating this the VM software. This is why I thought my method would be secure.)
I might have to rethink my strategy though if I'm wrong.

There was a short period of time where I played lucky ulsa, and he would crush me. I thought he was just a really good player, which maybe he is, but I felt I never had a chance vs him. I felt like he could see my cards, but without ever suspecting anything.