What do you guys think about this hand?

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He has a full house. A full house is a good hand.

When you have a good hand in no limit holdem, it's often best to wager it all.

post without results. pretty gross spot, I however am not qualified to comment lol.

great insight bud!

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I'm not playing HSNL, but seems to me that there is not much else to do than call with our blocker.

I think you should c/c the river. A value bet seems too thin. I don't see many worse hands in his range that are paying you off. Possibly AJ or AK if he doesnt 4bet AK pre and calls the flop. But if he's calling the flop with AK AQ is also in his range. I don't think he would play aces this way and hands like A10 are folding. It seems like a pretty clear c/c.

c/c and then say 'i KNEW he had that'.

why cant the other player turn something like 88 or AT in a bluff on this river? With our J blocker we have a perfect bluffcatcher to c/c.

b/c here seems like a metagame thing to me. with other words i cant understand the thought process behind the turn or the river play.

On the turn we use our hand as a bluffcatcher and when our opponent refuses to bet we turn it into a valuebet again, as the river didnt change much about the hands we beat? doesnt seems like a sound logic.

where do we find all of these genius threads lol

He is not jamming any river in that spot without a boat IMO. I don't know how wide is range is opening from the CO, but these games can get very wet so I am going to assume it is decently wide. I also assume he isn't bet/folding pre so that still leaves room for hands like KJ K10, Q10, Q9, J9 and low pocket pairs. That flop then hits his range very very well, and if you are C-betting a high percentage of the time then if he has a big draw then he will raise it on the flop. When he just calls you can eliminate most hands except AQ, A10, J10, j9, pocket nines, or maybe a very weak draw, even though I don't think so because you made a very strong c-bet. When he checks the turn on a scare card like that it is clear he is only calling for showdown value on most rivers for value, unless he grabs his case card where he did right here. When another connecting card falls on the river there are a lot of hands that now beat you in this spot so making a value bet can be very susceptible to a re raise. Also if he put you on the jack the entire time he might think you are folding to a bluff a decent percentage of the time on that river.

I would say if you were to play this different you should just check call the river. IMO. tough hand

your river bet makes no sense, and river call is even worst, this is the bottom of your value betting range IMO so if you call that you gotta have to hope hes bluffing a **** ton. i dont get why you are betting the river in the first place, he may be calling AJ sometimes but thats the only hand you are getting value from.

i think turn is a really good spot for a slowplay oop so because of that i still think river ranges will be pretty strong both way, i understand the j9 shove but actually think its pretty thin

Why are you 3betting this pre?

Thank you so much for this bump. Made me nostalgic.

and what year did we start calling them "3bets"?

what do you think about it? explain your river thought process

could c/f river like a boss

fyp

Any Static for Kanu7??

i think that i have to fold river raise, cause he cannot arrive there with enough hands he will need to bluf.

lol. how about why did you bet the river in the first place?

cause i can get value from a lot of hands

I find it weird that you say "a lot of hand" cause I can hardly think of any.

Hands that beat you that may take this line (ck turn and jamming river):
JT(1),TT(3),KJ(3),99(6),J9(1) - 14
Somewhat less likely - flushes and AQ (total combos 2)
Total combos that beat you - 16

Hands that you beat that may take this line and CALL river:
KTs(3), AJ(4) - 7

Hands that you chop that may take this line and CALL river:
KQ(6-chop), QTs(2) - 8

Hands that may take this line and feel compelled to bluff river:
89(3),9T(2) - 5

Given the above, even if we discount the 16 combos that may play like this by 50% (due to the turn check), we still don't have a profitable river bet (8 value jamming, 7 potentially calling).

If we discount his value jamming range to 8 then we need 4 bluffs in his range to bet/call river. So he would need to turn most of his 89/9T into bluffs, or also turn hands like KT into bluffs.

Did you have any history with this player whatsoever? I hate the call on the end. Our opponent is almost never shoving with something we beat. We only have the K-high straight. Seeing how wet the board is, there are a lot of hand possibilities that can beat us. A higher straight (AQ), Flush (A-X spades), and obvi any pocket pair like 99,TT, or (sometimes) KK.
This would end up making our hand a pure bluff catcher, seeing how Villian is never shoving on the end with a lone Qx. For me, this is a fairly long mental process that ends up being a sick Hero fold.