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10-20-2008 , 07:36 PM

recallme

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,650

Villain is Geenetic a 17/12 3bet 4.7 . He`s very good postflop and puts lots of pressure on his Villains.

Party Poker $2000.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): $2669.00
SB: $2425.00
BB: $5806.00
UTG: $2200.00
CO: $990.00

Pre Flop: ($30.00) Hero is BTN with 5

2 folds, Hero raises to $65, SB calls $55, 1 fold

Flop: ($150.00) 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $110.00, SB raises to $320, Hero calls $210

Turn: ($790.00) 6

(2 players)
SB bets $440.00, Hero calls $440

River: ($1670.00) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $1160.00

Flop could be a fold, but i believed that my 5 and GS are probably outs and that i could very well have the best hand. Turn is super standard.
But on the river what are you doing now?

10-20-2008 , 07:46 PM

spooky shadows

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,691

call there are so many hands you beat as played that bet this river 4 value it leaves me dizzy

10-20-2008 , 07:51 PM

ArmenH

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,648

Shove river and I'm not leveling..

10-20-2008 , 07:54 PM

fisheater11

old hand

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,270

check back flop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10-20-2008 , 08:35 PM

FAstar

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16

yeah def shove river here.. v rarely u get such sweets spots to jam on them with so little behind. and they will never see it ocming from you.

10-21-2008 , 12:32 AM

fees

LAPT San Jose Winner

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 10,626

wow shoving this river is LOL bad

10-21-2008 , 04:51 AM

billstery

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 563

yeah i like a call much more than a shove

10-21-2008 , 05:05 AM

HolteR

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 416

check at the flop c/c turn c/c river

10-21-2008 , 05:22 AM

duh

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,741

is call really best when there would only be $500 behind?

10-21-2008 , 05:27 AM

#10

josh87

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 598

shove is easy with 500 left. Villain probably has 5 7ss(and I don't see what is so unbelievable about that at all), or a set that you just runnered. Good job, well played.

10-21-2008 , 05:29 AM

#11

hierony

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 11

I'm thinking a set here. I don't how you can be in front, with a hand you cant trust. I don't believe that villian would follow through with A7-A8-A9 maybe A-10. Much more likely that he has the straight or set.

The act here comes down to how your experience with him imo.

- hierony

10-21-2008 , 05:31 AM

#12

Bigfoot

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,357

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh87

shove is easy with 500 left. Villain probably has 5 7ss(and I don't see what is so unbelievable about that at all), or a set that you just runnered. Good job, well played.

wtf? So you're putting villain on a straight or a set and you're wanting to shove when you have two pair? Just double checking.

10-21-2008 , 05:38 AM

#13

Bigfoot

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,357

Quote:

Originally Posted by hierony

A7 would give him a straight. Also A7-A10 are a very small % of his range depending on how he views recallme and it's very unlikely he'd ever take that line with those hands if he happened to have them. The guy is 17/12 and presuming that's over a decent # of hands that really, really tight.

10-21-2008 , 05:45 AM

#14

luegofuego

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4,873

cant see a fold here

10-21-2008 , 07:44 AM

#15

josh87

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 598

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigfoot

wtf? So you're putting villain on a straight or a set and you're wanting to shove when you have two pair? Just double checking.

Misread hand. I thought hero had A 7. He can fold now.

10-21-2008 , 08:08 AM

#16

ArmenH

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,648

Quote:

Originally Posted by fees

wow shoving this river is LOL bad

metagame

10-21-2008 , 08:16 AM

#17

roblin

adept

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,057

instacall and its not even close.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duh

is call really best when there would only be $500 behind?

yes. a call has to win like 30% against his bluff+vbrange but a raise has to win 50% against his calling range. big difference. i would guesstimate our hand is good about 30-50% and about 20-40% vs his callingrange. dont think we can get any better hands to fold...

10-21-2008 , 07:21 PM

#18

spino1i

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8,713

If he was bluffing here, he wouldnt stop on this river, it would be the perfect river for him to continue. He might even continue value betting worse two pairs. Im paying off here.

10-21-2008 , 08:10 PM

#19

FAstar

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16

lol i actually misread the board and thought it was 5 to a straight and it would be split if u called.. yeah then a shove is def bad. my bad!

11-03-2008 , 03:11 PM

#20

geeforce1

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 192

when was this, whats ur name on ipoker, i will try and find hh

11-03-2008 , 03:13 PM

#21

geeforce1

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 192

eh just noticed it says party poker hand history, i not played there under that name b4

11-03-2008 , 03:25 PM

#22

fnx99

G2p2 HU Champion

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,259

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeforce1

eh just noticed it says party poker hand history, i not played there under that name b4

that happens if u copy ipoker imported hands out of your HEM database. ipoker HHs show up as Party HH

11-03-2008 , 04:57 PM

#23

FishOnTilt

adept

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 701

why exactly is it so unbelieveable? he pretty much has a set like 80% of the time bluff 15% and vbettin worse maaaaybe 5%

11-03-2008 , 05:07 PM

#24

geeforce1

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishOnTilt

why exactly is it so unbelieveable? he pretty much has a set like 80% of the time bluff 15% and vbettin worse maaaaybe 5%

cos i had 55, not a flopped set

11-03-2008 , 05:12 PM

#25

g-p

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6,706

not deep enough to shove riv

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