I am running extremely cold lately, and this surely seems like a completely standard situation. However, I keep secondguessing myself, and I can't come up with any determining arguments for doing one thing over the other.

Villain is a big winner in the game. Play 26/21, with a postflop agression of 2. A bit to the passive side, but nothing in particular. He is a great hand- and boardreader, and seems to know his opponents very well.

I play 24/21, but he might have me as a bit more loose. I probably views me as a average to decent 25/50 regular, with spewtard moments. I have shown willingness to do some quite marginal things, but I don't know whether he considers these things to be ******ed or clever.

On to the hand.. 25/50 3handed. 6K eff.

Button folds, villain opens SB to 150, I call in BB with KToff.

Flop T43r. Pot: 300.

He bets 225, I call.

Turn 3, puts a fd. I don't have any of that suit. He bets 550, I call again.

River 5, backdoor fd misses. Pot is 1850 with 5050 behind.
Villain checks, and I really need a plan for playing this river.

Thx for responses.

- AB

just check

wow, id bet this 1000% of the time, its just a matter of what size.

if hes very good i dont mind a check here at all. if i bet, itd be $1450, probably folding to a raise.

this

bet about 1200 and I would call a checkraise most of the time. If I was the villain with a stronger hand I'd think this was a pretty poor spot for a value c/r (firing the third barrel of value seems like a much better idea), but I might talk myself into a bluff c/r with all kinds of random stuff if I thought your range was full of hands that wouldn't enjoy making that call. I mean, KT is pretty much the top of it aside from maybe some slowplayed little boats, right?

I had something written out almost exactly like this. Ya i like this.

I'm not so sure about that. Hero's hand looks a lot like toppair, most regulars have trouble not valuebetting toppair. So if he wants stacks in, check/raising would be the optimal play. He only loses value vs. 66-99.

I would definitely bet this river though, but I could fold to a shove.

@ the bettors: what does villain call with here? T9/JT/QT putting us on a float-float-bluff? OP has good showdown value here 99% of the time. The only sort of bluff we could rep would be A high that called twice for showdown value and now wants to bluff

id check...i dont think u get called with anything worse even a value bet, not even like 99 or 88. hei obv puts u on a decent 10 that u arnt folding. a c/r in this spot would piss me off so much...just check

wow seriously? always bet here, 1350 is good

i bet 1.2k most of the time folding to a check raise

this is also a reason why you really should've raised the flop or turn - given that you won't really hit this board that often, when you're in position you want to be bluffraising it a lot, so when you raise with KT your hand is actually more disguised if you're decently aggressive. as played, it's REALLY hard not to put you on a 9T~ hand which makes it harder to get paid off, but you still have to bet

bet 1225 and seriously consider snapping off a bluff raise for reasons dj expressed

im teh best board reader imo

I get snapped off here with 88 all the time... like literally way more than i would ever should.

Who is opponent? Is this on crypto?

You should be betting this river for value most of the time but it's okay to check sometimes as well. Whether or not you should bet is usually player dependent and has to do with dynamic and match flow. Have you been caught bluffing recently? Does he think you're capable of floating flop, picking up draw on turn and calling and then bluffing the river? Against tricky players that like to check raise alot of rivers I might check, from this players description it seems unlikely he'd be check raising us. I have been experimenting with value betting something smallish here against passive straight forward players because they are still capable of check/calling us with better.

Not betting this is criminal. If this is even close to you playing 25/50 then your recent bad results aren't "running extremely cold", I'm afraid.

Was this hand against me? Seem to remember playing a hand like this.
Super easy bet, esp w your usual aggro/floaty image. How to handle a cr is nothing I will discuss however

/Life

I'm sorry, I haven't replied to this thread yet.. Went a long time thinking on and off about it, and couldn't even really decide on what to write.. Im getting on it now.

- AB

I very much agree with all of this - very good post. I do however have some problems with it..

If I'm betting 1200, it's primarily to induce a cr, agree? Inducer bets like this have been very very wisespread within the last couple of months, and although it's all about verying one's range etc etc, I find it quite doubtful that villain will not grasp the idea of me betting 1200 in this spot. I mean.. If you were faced with a 1200 bet here - would you really just shove hoping that he was valuebetting thin with this semi-odd sized bet and didnt consider what to do on a shove?
I can't imagine being paid off my any worse hand then QT and maybe JT to a 1200 bet, as the hand, and board, goes on the flop and turn.

- AB

Cool.. snap off a raise?

I like both a flop raise and a turn raise in this hand (given I called flop), but which one do you prefer? In this case I tried to underrep my hand, which obviously brought me into trouble.

- AB

I'm not sure, I understand your post.

If villain is unlikely to check-raise river (given that he obviously is - fits with description), should I be calling or folding more to a cr?

The smallish bet probably works against me and other fishes.. but not against a big winner in the game, unless you are a lot better than a big winner in the game =).

- AB