Jungle man how much would you like to bet on the out come of mine and Zeejustins bet?

special offer just to you, ill lay you 1.1

Would you like to debate this on quad jacks? that would be fun, lets sit down and have a heart to heart and let people hear the real truth jungle.

Wishful thinking.

werent you looking to get staked after black friday?


or am i delusional there too?

yes i could pay 300k even AFTER black friday. Want to bet on that? escrow to anyone and we can bet on my net worth or me having 300k liquid. Didnt I play and win 1m in a 2k/4k this summer? You know, when I won you 160k? Also, what difference does it make since YOU are the one stuck heaps in a situation that will probably not get better?

I only needed to get staked for like 100200+, because I don't particularly like the idea of going broke or having a loosing year (cant claim losses on losing years). Perhaps by live player's standards I was rolled for that and 2/4, and certainly so if I sold action.

Tbh viffer the reason why I generally dont respond to your questions is the same reason people stopped responding--You're ranting and not listening to anyone. I dont know what your deal is right now but it seems to me like youre being shady at this point since people have time and time again disproved what youve said and you keep saying it.

We already had this discussion, and you said we had action. Now youre claiming you never texted me this, or that I faked the text? Are you kidding me?

what about the 300 times i told you to *** off. or all the rest of the text.

what about when you said we had a bet on what pinnicle thinks"? you cant pick and chose.

you then said you would bet on what justin sand i are betting on, are you going to wait three years and telll me i lost that bet to?

you have told me we have action 4 times and the only one you wanna recognise is the one your way ahead in? if you were looosing that would you ignore me on that too?


So why did you barrow 100k from tom?

this post makes no sense at all

You have 10 days to pay me before I post in NVG after its due before I post in NVG as a starting act. Absolutely every person thinks you owe the money.

lol also, Just heard about another player who has a big bet with you viffer... guess I'm not the only one you didnt settle with?

What do i owe you?

you have ten days to finish challenge or its called no action.

please please dont throw me into the NVG pond!!! please dont.

I posted in nvg for you, now die in a grease fire.


Post for all our bets that you agreed to in this thread.


if not leave me alone lose my number and what ever else.

I personally love the drama guys.. But just perhaps a phone call might straighten a lot of this out ?


BTW Viffer [loses]. this bet all day.

You guys can't have it both ways. You claim that poker is a sport. This bet would be voided at all wagering sites.

At the end of the day, the parameters of the bet needed to be much more narrow than what transpired. I mean, you analytical poker losers couldn't foresee this happening? How dumb do you have to be to not see the potential for someone to bail out if down big?

I'm afraid this bet is a draw. That is the only fair result. On the other hand, Durrr should be on the hook for his idiot guarantee of Full Tilt money. But you cannot reasonably expect this Viffer guy to owe anything. Also, you have a better chance of seeing God than you do of Durrr ever finishing this challenge...lol.

The main lesson is that most all poker players are MAGGOTS.

Haha, calling the challenge a DRAW ? Are you ****ing kidding me mrwoo ?
Either Durrrr plays or he loses, JUNGLEMAN IS WILLING TO PLAY AND WINNING !!!!!!!!!

Jungleman12 just responded to the only fair point I thought Viffer had, Viffer is just completely off the deep-end.
Broke and a welsher is what it looks like to me.

I think Viffer wins the arbitration b/c of the stipulation that the bet was legally enforceable at the time it was made. This implies the parties want the dispute handled by some US jurisdiction's contract law. It also implies online poker was legal in the US at that time. The DoJ made the subject matter of the contract illegal after the formation of the contract. This voids the contract/bet. It's called subsequent illegality. It's based on public policy and not foreseeability.

Some % of the money owed on x book pre bf will probably win at arbitration.

Obv this is just my opinion and I could be wrong.

The proper sb analogy is what would happen to a o/u wins bets if baseball became illegal in mid season.

lol u mad cuz you can't win at poker?

I actually don't think the x book will win.

ya i know right? we need to get back to wire rankings.....

this obv shouldn't be in NVG have you ever read any of the NVG threads?

Too much Viffer in my life, I feel more scummy myself after reading this thread.

So you are basically saying you are broke, and that you wont pay because there is a slight chance that jungleman could not have paid RIGHT AWAY after black friday had he been losing at that point? A lot of if's and might been's.

Just man up, admit you dont have the money, grind and pay him back what you owe gradually. I'm sure Jungle would let you pay like $10k a month or so.

If you lose the ZJ bet that's total of $450k loss for you, right? $150k to ZJ and $300k to Jungle, am I right?

anyone who knows for sure who raiseonce is got any clue if he's gonna show up for the 10k so i can stop waiting for him or not?

I believe that's Ivey

I adore watching these things unfold -- nothing like seeing ≥6 figure prop bets where the only recourse for welching is name calling on the internet.

Delusional maybe, incorrect definitely.

Not to mention completely irrelevant.

i need popcorn for this
DURRRR NEXT

Jungle, doesnt scott palmer have half your bet?

yes, he has 10 % xbook vs you but not the sidebet. He doesnt post here, plays online sometimes but lower stakes

Viffer, you shouldn't have to bet..... but, unfortunately for you, you did.

You forget that the 'right to play' was taken away in 2006 with UIGEA.
The ability to play was taken away on BF, and even that is arguable.