Noob question about traveling: I've got an unlocked iphone and am going to be in Finland, Russia, China, Japan and Vietnam. Two questions:

1) All I need to do is get some sim card right? Is it easy figuring out data plans? I kind of want to have the phone just to use for maps in case I get lost.

2) I'm assuming each country has its own carriers and I'll have to get a new sim card in each country. Or is there some sort of East Asia telecom giant that covers China, Japan and/or Vietnam?

P.S.A. - I've had ~$100k gone missing from my MicroGaming account overnight. I play on Micro through Betsson which seems like a fairly large betting company. I've played high stakes there for a couple years with smoothness and very quick cashouts, nothing to suggest anything to be worried about. Yesterday I noticed when my session was over that my account balance was way wrong. I checked the website and it was down saying they were having technical difficulties, even though the client still seemed to work fine. I figured my account would be correct today. Sure enough it still was ~100k short today (I don't know the exact number because my memory of my balance before yesterday is +/- $10k). I've spent hours today with support and they really don't have much to offer me other than that they think my balance is correct and that they've forwarded it to MicroGaming to investigate as I should hear back in 24 hours. My guess as to what happened (as this has happened to me in the past with smaller sketchier skins) is that when my tables closed, the balance did not get credited with the table balances. This would make sense, as I had roughly 90-100k spread amongst my open tables. Will update on the situation, but I suggest anyone who plays on MG to check their accounts. Edit: I've also been told by support that there'd been no action since my session ended nor any transactions, ie. it's not a case of some sort of hacking.

MIchael Jordon is sponsored by nike you want him to play King James head up?

game 2 of nba finals, huricane comes and destroys all the nba venues, 3 years later they decide to to finish the finals, Michael jordan decided to **** hoojers and do blow for 3 years. What happens to the 3 year old bets?


Ansky ask ariel? IM sure he can look some of this up in law school? People just say hey viffer cant spell hes nuts.



People tell me to stop posting? SMD

Have people even been paid from the full tilt money?

Somepeople decided that after black friday they didnt want to move to stay at top of there game others did.

to say this has no impact on the situation is absurd.

I havent talked to tom about this, hes delusional, and thinks hes going to win, but as someone who has bets on him i think its absurd people expect him to just jump up and play. Over the last 2 years i have played very little poker, not that i was good before but now im way worse not playing makes your raising arm tighten up.

Whats a fair amount of time for tom get back to the top of his game, IM guessing he would have to play 3 months hard core.

how about this, tell ike he cant play for 3 years, and after that ill have someone hes never heard of play him HU for alot.


any ways, my offer still stands ill debate this with anyone here for a big dollar amount in front of a las vegas gambling judge. Dont tell me to shut up just take my money.

The same thing happened to me. My skin, BetSafe, was down as well, and there is ~$20k missing from my account. I haven't heard anything back from support yet.

Sure we can ask Ariel, though I don't think he'd respond how you think he would.

I understand that Black Friday was crazy, and was enough of a reason to allow some delays and definitely some leeway. But the grounds of the challenge weren't "50k hands vs me while I am a polished online pro, but bets are off if I move to Macau." The same events happened to both of them, and Black Friday was more than 2 years ago. If Tom no longer believes that he is capable of beating JM, then he should negotiate a buyout-- the bet doesn't just dissolve because of changing circumstances.

Besides, I don't even think Tom agrees with anything you are saying so what is the point?

MJ refused to play game 3 for 3 or 4 months because he 'didn't feel like it that much'. MJ also knew that he would have to complete the playoffs when the stadia were rebuilt. He then had 10 months to get back in to shape (and 2 months notice of that!), but chose to play streetball with a bunch of white guys while LBJ chose to return to the NBA courts.

Tom is more delusional then i am! The challenge was to get action over a few month period i believe, not a 3 year period. i understand what ariel thinks, but ask him to research law and precadence in this situation.



I have no idea what tom thinks about this besides he says hes only 30 buy ins down, and he will win no worries. He has a big bet with me that he has to seriously play 50k Hands HU before he plays the challenge matches.

let him sit at home and play online poker for a month and ill bet the challenge is over with in 30 days afterthat any takers?

You guys really are not thinking clearly about this. I know you people have money involved but but the ****ing DOJ kinda threw a big monkey wrench into things.

Viffer, ask durrrr how much money he has tied up in FT...

"He has a big bet with me that he has to seriously play 50k Hands HU before he plays the challenge matches. "

wtf? not sure what this means but I guess that means hes training? Thats fine I guess but it's unacceptable not to play me and claim to be busy the entire time if hes actually playing 50k hands with someone else

"Tom promised to play 50k hands and didn't feel like it after he started losing"

"Tom promised to pay 1m dollars to Full Tilt players if they didnt get paid but later didn't feel like it"

Is there a difference or something?

"let him sit at home and play online poker for a month and ill bet the challenge is over with in 30 days afterthat any takers?"

Id certainly take that if you escrow

you have a bet, who would you like to escrow with? 50k ?


You say its cause he started loosing, maybe but the great thing is the Goverment made it illeagle so he can use that as an excuse, just like you could of if you were loosing.

IM not sure if tom is training or not, but he should and he should before he plays?

Im sorry some people have a real life out side of the internet.

Also im really sure the people that have side action have a lot more claims to this then tom does. If you dont want to give our fighter time to train then we cant and wont bet on him. Sorry buddy you just dont make the rules here.

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First off, Dwan stoppped playing the challenge many months before Black Friday even happened (after he was down a lot). You representing that the DoJ was the one who stopped the whole thing is not accurate at all, they just made it more difficult (not at all impossible) to resume. Furthermore, you can beat the point in the ground all you want that Dwan needs time to train but as other people have pointed out, Jungle was in the EXACT same position being an American. Jungle relocated after black friday to keep playing online, Dwan didn't and that's his own choice. The world doesn't have to stop so he can makeup for his decision in the past and so you can feel better about your bet on him.

I understand a lot of people weighing in have action on both sides (I have none), but it's really obvious where you fall and what you're looking for. Nothing has happened that nullifies this challenge (durrr's challenge to the world that he's #1) and it's pretty unfair that Jungle and everyone with side action has to wait at the mercy of how Dwan's decides to allocate his time.

Coming up on 1 year since FTP reopened.

I don't know what a "las vegas gambling judge" is but i'll debate you for a big dollar amount given a reasonable format and panel of unbiased, qualified judges.

If he falls(tom) and never plays or pla

I know a lot of people here dont read NVG, but this thread (by nosebleeds PLO player Jeans) is worth reading both as a PSA for HS players and as a shocking story in its own right

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ojans-1369171/

That is pays a buy out then he owes, in debted thats all gambling is a game not the world economy. Why hurt a guy who can't complete a wager? No one loses, just as the money you put in a pot is not yours.

Great, ill set up a web cam in new jersey at toms house, you set one up in Dc at junglemans house, we will stream them playing the challnge for everyone to see.

IM in Macau now and i cant even play on poker stars?

Nothing has changed? you guys are delusional.

People say im am so far out there yet noone is taking my money, i have offered many bets on this.

Trying to impose any penelty for not playing is absurd, tom has stated he will play, and when he feels like he playing good im sure he will. UNtell then alot of people just need to jump in a grease fire.


what do you think pinnicle would do if they took action on this?

we coulld find a judge, someone from the gambling commission, or a lawyer. Someone neither of us knew,

Oh god Viffer you are just terrible at all things on the internet.

Viff, full disclosure I have a big bet on Jungle yada yada. I don't think there's any real legal precedent here other than a general obligation to operate in good faith in contractual/commercial dealings.

I don't think anybody disagrees with you that Black Friday changed things and that some accommodations should have been made and patience should be exercised. It's just that the leeway has been used up. Maybe if Tom were playing a lot of heads-up no-limit online and putting in a good faith effort to shake off the rust it would be one thing but at this point it seems pretty clear that the challenge isn't a priority for him and that without some sort of meaningful agreement enforceable by the moderators it won't be. The many months he's had to train his HUNL game that he hasn't used for those purposes seem to me like a pretty obvious waiver of the claim that he needs to prepare for the challenge.

He should either prioritize the challenge that he issued to the world or buy out

im not sure what you want to debate viffer, there is obviously no legal precedent for this if you want to defend durrrr saying he is not legally obligated to do anything then you would win but im sure thats not what we are discussing here right?

Durrrr just buy out or play it's not that ****ing hard

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Also, you ALREADY made a bet. Sorry that dwan is down a lot and sorry HE made the choice to stop playing, but that doesn't change the fact you made a bet. Man up, YOU don't make the rules here. Have some honor and quit trying to weasel out of this.

lol....ok

Feel free to ask me about Finnish sim cards, I live in Central Helsinki. In here you can get a prepaid thing in 5 minutes and for ~20 euros you'll do for like a month unless you call sex lines or something. You can also use the remaining balance in any euro country, probably Russian, and possibly in the Asian countries too (my sim didn't work in Korea but that's the only place so far). I'm 99% sure you can get one as a foreigner too but if you somehow can't I can get one for you. Also if you need any additional info / help about Helsinki feel free to hit me up, we don't get a lot of foreigners here so it's always exciting times. You should also hit our floorball practice if you happen to be here on a Thursday, it's quite a Finnish thing to do and we already have honorary Finn whitelime in our squad