Come on, like any of us watch ESPN...

Are you perpetuating the stereotype that gay men don't like sports?!

Yes

I think I'm one of 3 gay guys in Buffalo who enjoy sports

I hope he goes make it on a team in the NFL. I also do hope that soon something like this won't be news. Maybe more gay men will get more interested in sports if there was openly gay players, or I hope so at least lol.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...lty-not-really

Article by LZ Granderson (pretty well known gay writer, he's featured on ESPN and CNN at least that I know of) acknowledging this milestone while also talking about the unsung players who came before.

Personally, I think this might actually result in him being drafted slightly higher than he might have otherwise been - there's a ton of great publicity to be had here, especially for the teams that like to emphasize having players with good character (as opposed to teams who take risks with players with established issues) and/or teams in so called "progressive" cities/areas, like Seattle.

Frankly I'd love to see him in a Browns uniform not because he's gay, but because he was an SEC first team All-American defender in a conference that emphasizes defense.

Well if I'm the second who's the third? Lol

A lot depends on how he performs in the combine, but right now I'd love to see him end up with the Patriots. Progressive city, solid veteran players, a strong head coach, and I know for a fact that they have at least openly gay employee in mid/upper mgmt.

I just hope he does well at the combine... If he doesn't, I'm afraid we'll have to hear a bunch of stories about how he was distracted and didn't prepare properly followed by a big drop in the draft.

I'm fairly new to this site and just came across this thread, so I just wanted to say hi to the LGBT poker community. I'm a 25yr old lesbian from the UK. Nice to meet you!

I figured it was us two and possibly a 3rd among the entire Buffalo gay population.

Welcome!

The more the merrier!

Quoting the last sentence for truth and amusement in light of recent events. Strong gaydar is strong...

What about Michelle Rodriguez and Cara Delevigne tho!

Cara Delevigne recently added me on facebook. True story.

Sweet facebook brag

I actually have mixed feelings about Michelle Rodriguez... Think she's a great actress, but I'm not a big fan of the way that she has historically handled rumors about her sexuality. Staying in the closet is ok, imo, but it becomes really problematic when you deny being bi/gay in a way that acts like it would be bad if you were something other than straight, which I think she did at times. But, ultimately, I suppose that increased visibility is good, and I would begrudgeanyone who has found happiness, so I hope they are.

ok. I read this thread a lot. I'm a gay male but i always stop just short of coming out of the closet. A number of people know im gay and if someone investigated me they could find out im gay really easily.But my parents dont know im gay, and neither do my three grandparents and the people i work with and most of my aquaintences- basically im not really out . Obv this is a gimmick I created since im not comfortable posting on my main account( at the moment, maybe later- i havent really thought about it ) for a variety of reasons.

I c/p this post because i found this part of your discussion really interesting and deeply disturbing in regards to me specifically- since I know that for me at least this is true, I am very emotionally stunted and probably wouldn't be if i could just say im gay and have a real and open relationship with another guy. It makes me sad. In my defense im from a RED state and a lot of the people i talk to on a regular basis have unbelievably conservative beliefs.

On a side note theres a strong possibility i misread this part but i was curious to know very specifically how it felt Gangstaman the moment when you told them " he is my boyfriend" if i recall reading that post you talked about how youre family thought it was NBD but im not sure about if you described the feeling. At the moment of typing I feel emotionally distressed and just wanted to say hi to everyone. Note to self: stop typing

The only thing I can say is what I've said before - give yourself a break.

Having this type of arrested development (going through "adolescent" relationship experiences at an older age) is actually typical for the LGBT community, and probably will be until there's no social stigma attached to coming out. There's nothing wrong with you at all, it just means you start later (on average) than straight kids.

There's probably a lot of benefits to starting later, given that early sexualization also leads to some difficulties.

But, as I said, I completely understand that it feels awkward as hell to be going through adolescent romantic stuff in your 20s. I was a late bloomer (although not because I'm gay) and it adds a layer of ridiculousness to the way you feel. Like, how in the hell can I be acting like a 14 year old when I'm 26?

The thing is, there's really no right or wrong time to go through this stuff. It happens when it happens. As long as you keep growing and being honest with yourself about who you are and who you want to be, you'll get to where you need to be. And anyone who would laugh at you or look down on you for experiencing things a little later are just douchebags who aren't worth your time.

If it helps at all, I feel I'm basically 'normal' now, wrt this. I mean, I'm not a very emotional person to begin with, but I feel I'm now on par with where I would have been had I been straight.

I was very nervous, hands shaking. But that eased up quickly and then I just felt a bit uncomfortable, eventually just feeling 'normal.' It went pretty much exactly as I imagined it. It's really nice to have parents like mine and to be from NJ

Hey I wrote a message that I was going to PM but you don't have PM access since you don't have enough posts. If you want to setup a e-mail or something so I can send it to you? I would just post it here but it's pretty long and is also pretty personal.

Thanks for the posts, sorry I didn't respond sooner.

Thanks for the support. I have always been honest with myself but I'm just learning to be positive about myself, and more open with who I am. At a certain point in my life I was secretly meeting a guy who was like um a friend with benefits I guess and also was secretly playing poker(people knew i occasionally played the game but had no idea I would spend hours playing in casinos) and was known as a nice simple guy so i kind of almost felt like I was dexter/ living a double life. I don't really feel like elaborating on the following right now but yes in some ways im more emotionally intelligent than most people in their 20's but relationship wise I probably think like a 15 year old

That does help. I am a somewhat emotional person but don't base my decisions on them. That's good news that you feel normal and i hope sometime i feel better when i come out too. Probably not any time soon but maybe a few months from now. I can imagine coming out to my parents and it plays out really badly in my head everytime. I have strategized the easiest way for me to do it before. the basic plan is like this:

1.) introduce my mom to my friend
2.) sometime later - "that is because he's my boyfriend"
3.) instead of telling my dad have my mom tell my dad
4.) hide for a couple weeks

Then i always think about how redic that is. Its actually amazing Ive never just blurted out "Im gay" before to them. You are lucky to live in nj and have non- conservative family and im happy and a bit jealous for you. OTOH I guess im lucky I dont live in Uganda.

sure!
hautecouture1266@gmail.com- this is a secondary email of mine. I am not quite as fashionable as the name implies

http://winteriscoming.net/2014/03/in...ristian-nairn/

Hodor!

Question: I have some friends in the gay community, “bears” as they’re wont to call themselves, who hold you on a pretty high pedestal. One good friend of mine (I’ve known since we were in the 5th grade together) says your bear following is “extensive.” Is this something you’re aware of?

Kristian: Well, in all honesty, when you talk about “the gay community,” you are talking about MY community, haha. I AM aware of it yeah, and I think it’s really lovely. There’s not a day that I don’t get a few messages, but 99% or more are super sweet and nothing smutty at all! Again, it’s a privilege, and I really mean that. I’ve never hidden my sexuality from anyone, my whole life in fact, and I’ve been waiting for someone to ask about it in an interview, cos it’s not something you just blurt out. I’ve tried to lead the questions a few times, to no avail!

This is a cool thread I just found. Been perusing 2p2 for a few years, but don't post much. Never thought I'd find a gay thread on here.

So, I'm a 27 yo gay male in LA.

I came out around 19-20 and to those of you struggling with it, it is definitely a process. Piece of advice, let one of your close friends tell everybody. WAY EASIER haha.

My parents had a tough time with the issue being very conservative Catholics, but they try their best. Chances are that even if your parents don't think being gay is ok, they will still love you.

Kind of like going into the past reading all this coming out stuff as I feel that it is so far behind me, but saw this little gem of a video recently on FB that got me to thinking:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/02/03...-you-to-tears/

Cheers!

Welcome to the thread! I'll actually be in LA the next week or so for the WSOPC at the Bike. If you'll be there, feel free to say hi.

If you are in town, we must get together. I'll probably play Fri and Sat. PM contact info?

Shauna

We should have a little meet up somewhere.

Did the homosexual community ask the happy community if they could use the term 'gay' to describe themselves? What gave homosexual people the right to call themselves gay?

Very rarely would I use the word gay to mean weird or silly or dumb or weak, but that's just me. The usage of words evolves, words go in and out of fashion, old words die and new words are born.

Some people go looking for a reason to be upset or offended.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't gay people who chose the term for themselves, so that pretty much negates that argument.

The origins of using "gay" in a negative way still remain, and we are privy to that. Calling someone a "******" for some reason, packs a more vulgar punch than calling someone a "dip****", an "*******", or a "bitch". Why is that? It's because people are way more afraid of being perceived to be "gay" than they are of being perceived as an *******. This is fundamentally wrong, so it just shows one's ignorance who knows this and continues to choose words like "gay" and "******" and "******" in their vocabulary.

PS, I used to use the word gay VERY OFTEN when I was younger and it took a straight friend of mine to convince me to stop saying it haha