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Not this. Trans gender fokes want to be treated as the gender they have transitioned to, not as a female with male parts for example. A MTF for example just wants to be treated as a female (at least that's how I feel). When I do go through with the transition I don't want to be labeled as "the tranny with the ****" I wan't to be treated as a regular girl. I will obviously still identify as trans (because thats what I am) but the point is, I just want to be treated as a woman, and not some kind of 3rd gender alien.
Though it is true they are cross-gender people who live tier live part male-part female, and cross dressers, drag queens etcc. They are still apart of the trans community, it is a much wider community than most people think. I know you are a well informed person and have been with many trans partners, I just think you're really wrong about the "3rd gender" because it is kind of offensive. I doubt any transitioned person would want to be labeled as a 3rd gender, they just want to be "normal".
I understand fully that this is how you, personally, feel, and, likely, it's how many other transgenders feel as well, but I'm not convinced all.
How would you label a person that was born a male, but chose to live as a female. Took it way beyond just cross dressing, considered themselves to be a women, dressed like one all the time, acted like one all the time, spoke like one all the time, and had breast implants, but decided to keep their penis, even though they had the financial means to get the operation to change it to a vagina, and everyone important in their life, would be totally fine with them having a vagina. Yet despite all this, they still chose to keep their penis.
On top of this, they also liked to, sometimes, be the top in sex, as well as enjoyed being sucked off.
If you're going to label such a person, it's hard to label them as a full female. I much prefer a term like ladyboy, because of the aspects of both genders they display, and choose to display. Hence, a third gender.
Many of my exes are like this, that's why I prefer to think of them, as a third gender, not as girls. I haven't asked them what they would prefer, I just always referred to them as girls, or sometimes as TS or ladyboys, when talking to them, but my guess is, some of them, would be fine with being considered a 3rd gender, they might even like the uniqueness of it.
I have asked some of them about operations, and they've all said they want tits (most of them had them already in fact,) but more then one of them, have said even if they had the financial means, they would not get a vagina, they prefer to keep their penis.
On the flip side, I have one ex in particular, that still has a penis, but doesn't have the means to get an operation, but she has no desire to be sucked, or to be the top in sex, she essentially doesn't want her penis to do what penises usually do in sex. So, more or less, she wishes to ignore the fact that that is what she is equipped with, because she feels like a full on girl, and girls don't have penises.
Another interesting note, on their Facebook profiles, some of the TS/Tg's I know choose to list their gender as girl, while others actually still list it as male, despite looking feminine in appearance in all of their pictures.
Would you label them as full on females? or possibly a 3rd gender.
I understand that you, don't want to be considered a 3rd gender, but I'd urge you to consider that, there may be subgroups within the larger group of trans individuals. Some may feel full on female, but others may actually like being 'chicks with dicks' just because it seems odd to you, doesn't mean it isn't out there.
From my experience, I'd say it is.
Then to, you have to consider the perspective of the partners of transgender people. Take me for instance, if I was looking for a girl, I'd go for a girl (and when I am, I do,) if I was looking for a guy, I'd go for a guy (and when I am, I do,) the reason why I have been so attracted to so many TS/Tg/ladyboys/whatever term you want to use, is precisely because, to me, they did have a certain allure to them, that the other two genders didn't. I did like the female body, mixed in with the male assertiveness, horniness and aggressiveness. I liked the aspects of both that they displayed. That, for me, was the attraction.
Hence why I do like to think of them as a third gender, a mix of the other two, the best (and sometimes worst,) of both worlds as it were. That's what I like, what I am attracted to.
But I understand that that's not the way you feel, but I do maintain that there are some in the trans community that do.
However, I apologize if I made you personally feel like a 3rd gender alien. And believe me, I have nothing but the utmost respect for those I consider to be 3rd gender, nothing but the utmost respect for you either.
If you tell me you are a girl, a full female, then that is what I will consider you, I give you that respect of course. My sister.