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Can playing poker cause me to lose custody of my children? Can playing poker cause me to lose custody of my children?

02-21-2011 , 10:50 AM
Serious Question,

hopes for serious answers...

I'm a winning online (part time) player.
Please respond if you've heard of anyone that has had this hobby used against them regarding child custody...

thanks
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02-21-2011 , 11:08 AM
If by part time you mean you still hold down a full time job, and you're paying taxes on winnings and in decent financial shape, you should be okay. But if playing poker is cutting into time you should be spending with your children, then they might have something on you. Just be smart and keep it in perspective.
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02-21-2011 , 11:08 AM
I can definatly see more negative sides of it in a court of law.

I think it really depends. Are your poker taking time away from spending it with your kids? Do your poker affect your income? Does poker make you a different person than you normally are?

There is many angles to it and I can most certainly see it being used against you, the question is how the judge is gonna see it and if the other side has any merit to their arguments.
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02-21-2011 , 11:10 AM
Not unless you bet them.

Serious answer -- You should check out this thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...y-case-880383/
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02-21-2011 , 11:15 AM
Depends on how you manage your time I suppose. If you're neglecting your kid to spend all your time at the computer playing poker then you deserve whatever happens. If you balance your time well and are a good influence in your kids life then it absolutely shouldn't go against you.

They'll try and use it against you but it's not your fault, it's because women are petty, desperate creatures at the end of the day.
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02-21-2011 , 11:21 AM
IMO justice doesn't know poker is immoral/bad/degenerative, you see the blindfold on that statue. the people in the court will try to cast it in that negative light but poker as a concept doesn't really register in admiralty law/jurisdictions (yeah we live on the land but we use the sea's law!)

IMO you have the same chance as them in casting whatever light you want about it. So don't screw it up.
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02-21-2011 , 11:21 AM
i can tell how serious this problem is by your name OP
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02-21-2011 , 11:40 AM
If you post your graph that would help us decide if poker can be used against you negatively.
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02-21-2011 , 11:45 AM
The Ultimate Sheriff's gimmick account ITT?
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02-21-2011 , 11:45 AM
if the judge doesnt play poker then he will automatically assume your blowing all your kids money on gambling that you automatically lose at.
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02-21-2011 , 12:08 PM
Custody battles fill a unique area of the law that allow character evidence to show that a person has a propensity to do something. The other side could try and show how much you play poker and at what limits. Then they will suggest that this shows that you are a degen gambler and a bad role model. Whether the judge believes that is up in the air. Good luck.
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02-21-2011 , 12:19 PM
name something you canīt lose your kids over these days..
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02-21-2011 , 12:21 PM
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The Ultimate Sheriff's gimmick account ITT?
This for sure
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02-21-2011 , 12:24 PM
This is not a serious reply but hey sik.

Man lost 5 daughters in gambling bet
Man lost 5 daughters in gambling bet in Pakistan

By Farzana Shah

November 23

Once again women fall victim to male chauvinism in Pakistan when a man sold his innocent small daughters as an item for gambling in Sindh Province of Pakistan.

A man Dhani Bakhsh in Qambar area of Shahdadkot Larkana (Sindh) put his five daughters namely Tabasum (3-years-old), Rashda (4-year-old), Rubina (10-year-old), Shahbana(8-year-old), and Kanwal (7-year-old) on gambling bet against Rs20,000, Rs55,000, Rs30,000, Rs32,000 and Rs40,000 respectively.

The man lost the five innocent small girls in gambling at different points and also reportedly wed Rubina and Shabana to his gambler fellows on the condition that the small girls will remain at home until attain puberty.
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02-21-2011 , 12:26 PM
OP, You've posted this in the wrong forum. Seriously. Try reposting in the "Poker Legislation" forum. There are some real attorneys there, one of whom might be able to give you good advice.

Mods - maybe one of could move this thread there, please?

Of course, what you really need, OP, is serious legal advice from an attorney who practices family law in your state (or country). An attorney knows the laws and legal system there.

What you will get by posting it here is mostly trolling, wise ass remarks, and some well intended but not necessarily well informed "advice".

Lee
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02-21-2011 , 12:29 PM
What state are you in?

Male or Female.

If you are a male then you might be screwed.

If you are making money playing poker then be prepared to add 20% of that to your child support payments.

Custody court is a very expensive place.

A lawyer might tell you to keep the kid the next time you get visitation which might/will result with you in jail.

I paid a lawyer 4k and the guy never showed up to court. He charged me for every little thing, (email, phone calls,meetings,) which is standard in most cases and then transferred my remaining balance to another lawyer who turned out to be a decent guy.

Overall it is frustrating process that may take a couple of years to sort out.

Next time wear a condom or marry her.

Be patient and stay calm. Stay out of trouble until everything is settled. Do research and take the time to look up the law in your state, it will save you lots of time and money.

Proceed with extreme caution.

Best of luck.
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02-21-2011 , 12:30 PM
serious anser: i got a friend (woman) playing poker (semi-professionally). she is divorcing at the moment. Her husband is using that to gain custody. The divorce isn't over yet so can't tell you results, but he has a strong case. She has taken another job to show that she can't support herself in other way than gambling.

gl with having custody, especially if ur the father.
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02-21-2011 , 12:34 PM
Yuck, just because gambling for a living sounds disgusting to people with no real knowledge of it, them same disgusting people use that against you to kick you when you're down
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02-21-2011 , 01:16 PM
thanks for the serious replies and well intended advice.

Just to clarify: I am male, the children are my wife's from a previous marriage. The ex and her have joint custody. the ex is a bitter douche bag that is making up accusations of abuse among other things. the kids are spoiled by him. the wife and I both have full time jobs. I play poker as a hobby (would like to play full time). Just wondering how he can bring this custody lawsuit against us with no facts and what else he can try to use against us. Mods does this need moved?
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02-21-2011 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Something Serious
thanks for the serious replies and well intended advice.

Just to clarify: I am male, the children are my wife's from a previous marriage. The ex and her have joint custody. the ex is a bitter douche bag that is making up accusations of abuse among other things. the kids are spoiled by him. the wife and I both have full time jobs. I play poker as a hobby (would like to play full time). Just wondering how he can bring this custody lawsuit against us with no facts and what else he can try to use against us. Mods does this need moved?
serious reply

I am 34 and have custody of 3 daughters teen to preteen. I have had sole custody for the last 8 years. At the time of the custody hearing, my exes lawyer ask myself and all three of my witnesses this question, "Do you/your son/your brother play video games?". His implication was that i played video games while neglecting my children.

Yes it is very possible that an exes lawyer will bring up anything to discredit you in the eye of the judge. Depending on the judge and circumstances surrounding this particular case, be prepared to answer the questions as openly as possible. "Yes, i play poker part time." "No it doesnt interfere with my parental obligations or cause my family undue financial hardships." even, "no, online poker is not illegal."

Exes can bring up pretty much anything in court, so be prepared for the worst.
GL OP
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02-21-2011 , 01:36 PM
if you were dealing drugs or laundering money or supporting terrorism you would probably be able to keep your children with some legal combat, but poker? forget about it, no one would be stupid enough to defend a poker player as father of the year, may as well drop em off at the grandparents place.
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02-21-2011 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by REALSam
At the time of the custody hearing, my exes lawyer ask myself and all three of my witnesses this question, "Do you/your son/your brother play video games?". His implication was that i played video games while neglecting my children.
wow jesus christ facepalm.jpg
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02-21-2011 , 04:00 PM
I actually went through this. I was looking for joint custody of my son when first playing full time. I was able to prove my income and show how much was in my saving account and it never became an issue again. I did have to convince the court that I wasnt a gambling addict and wasnt in the casino 20 hours a day.

Get a good lawyer and it wont be an issue!
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02-21-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NomoneyHU.
The Ultimate Sheriff's gimmick account ITT?
This i like

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Originally Posted by scandilous
name something you canīt lose your kids over these days..
Winning $10M playing poker?
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02-21-2011 , 07:05 PM
grunching.

should it? not necessarily. could it? probably. seriously, can you ever see a judge or a court of "regular people" ever thinking its a GOOD thing in terms of raising children?
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