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To Female Pros: Answer "What do you do for a living?" To Female Pros: Answer "What do you do for a living?"

11-02-2013 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by QueenV
I get that question a lot. Usually I answer: "I'm unemployed" or my new favorite: "I'm between jobs". If I answer: "Nothing", they of course take that up as a challenge to "crack my code". That's usually followed by "What does your husband do?" I'm at a point where I think I'll start a checklist of questions, bring it to the poker table and check off each one as it is asked and then hand off the completed checklist to the guy who asked the most questions.

Once I answered that I retired early after the internet boom. That was a mistake. I suddenly became a potential "sugar mama". Never seen a guys eyes spark up that fast. Apparently money is a big turn on.

Whenever I attempted to tell the truth, while I was living in Vegas and told them "I play poker", they just stare at me, stare at me, keep staring at me, smile kinda funny and usually say, "No, really, what do you do?". Of course you get the usual "Can you make money doing that?"

I no longer answer honestly, not because I don't want people to change how they play against me, but because I just really don't want to see their faces and the dawning of realizations/assumptions when they either accept or discard my answer. I've seen them all. I am just saddened by humanity. Then there are ones that don't need to ask, the ones that do what you do for a living, THEY know. They look at you with a knowing glance as the idiot next to you finishes his sentence and you both smile slightly as you lie.

I've found that most men don't want to know the truth about the women they are playing against. They have a preconceived fantasy/notion about every woman they play against. They label us as the "hot chick with boobs", "the dyke", "the mama san", "the crazy Asian", "the rich man's wife", "the bingo grandma", "the giggling ditz". It's better for everyone concerned that we don't burst that fantasy.
Haha I loled.
There just doesn't seem to be a good answer though.
Only good ways to avoid the answer
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04-17-2014 , 12:32 AM
Look them dead in the eye and say drug dealer.

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05-02-2014 , 12:59 AM
Look him in the eye and say "refuse manager". But make sure you pronounce "refuse" like the way you say it when you mean "garbage", not the way you say it when you mean "deny", though you would intend both senses here. But the latter might be obvious enough that he would catch on too quickly, thus spoiling the fun. The former is a pronunciation that he probably wouldn't know about, which would lead him to be confused and lose interest in talking to you.


The garbage sense would be an implication that the person you are talking to is a kind of garbage, someone we could think of as being valueless and discarded by society. Since part of your job requires handling such people, then you could truthfully say your job is to manage refuse.

In the sense of "deny", your job as refuse manager would be to manage the denials you must make to men at the table who make advances to you.

And "refuse manager" works because it does sound like an actual job.

So you can say it with the easy confidence that comes from insulting someone to his face in a way that is incisive in its veracity yet subtle enough that he is flustered by not being able to immediately understand what has been said.
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05-08-2014 , 12:30 AM
As a non-pro, I don't mind playing against a pro (as long as they're not jerks). I'll tighten up my play, but I would do that anyway if I thought they were a good player (male or female).

When people tell me they are pros, my first response is usually to ask how they go about maintaining and improving their game because I'm trying to get better myself. I hope that doesn't fall into the category of annoying/stupid questions.
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05-09-2014 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by icantfoldsets
I was at the doctor's today and suddenly didn't know what to put in the "occupation" blank. I left it blank, haha.
FWIW, someone on these forums got the US Department of Labor to list Professional Poker Player as one of their official job titles in 2013. Evidently there was a lot of discussion of the category in which we belonged. We are with athletes and enertainers.

I'm hoping that the DOL listing will be one more small step to legitimizing poker for people in general and state and federal legislators in particular.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 05-09-2014 at 11:52 PM. Reason: sentence clarity, no significancant content change
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05-10-2014 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
FWIW, someone on these forums got the US Department of Labor to list Professional Poker Player as one of their official job titles in 2013. Evidently there was a lot of discussion of the category in which we belonged. We are with athletes and enertainers.

I'm hoping that the DOL listing will be one more small step to legitimizing poker for people in general and state and federal legislators in particular.
I see that I posted this twice, with different years. In the earlier post I said that this happened in 2012. 2013 is the correct year.
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05-17-2014 , 07:05 AM
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05-18-2014 , 10:30 PM
I have felt for the past year a lot more comfortable telling strangers my true profession. It just seems that the general public is becoming more and more aware of poker as a living. I definitely get less of the shock reaction nowadays too, from being a woman doing it.
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05-19-2014 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by katie75013
I have felt for the past year a lot more comfortable telling strangers my true profession. It just seems that the general public is becoming more and more aware of poker as a living. I definitely get less of the shock reaction nowadays too, from being a woman doing it.
I totally agree actually. It seems like people are very interested now whenever poker is mentioned!
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05-27-2014 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by drkamikaze
The two responses I get most often to telling random people I am a poker player are:

1) mixing up blackjack and poker: Oh wow, I could never count cards or anything like that.

and

2) mafia concerns (particularly regarding being staked): Is that safe? You aren't going to have some guy show up and break your legs if you owe them money, are you?
this is late, but watch out for teddy KGB. respect, booyakasha
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05-27-2014 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rdsxfn524
this is late, but watch out for teddy KGB. respect, booyakasha
I basicallly outed myself last week, not necessarily as a pro, but as a "math player."

Most of my play has been online, and I'm still getting used to the mechanics of live play, especially keeping track of the numbers (my tournament M, stack sizes, pot size, etc.)

I frequently look at the board with all the stats (time remaining in level, avg. stack size, etc.) and I probably study player stacks too long and too often. But I think that what really gave it away was that if I lost track of the pot size when several players were in a hand, I studied the pot to estimate the amount.

Finally, someone said, "You use math when you play, don't you?" Oops. I'll have to work on being less obvious.

Last edited by Poker Clif; 05-27-2014 at 07:14 PM. Reason: I inserted "last week" into the first sentence.
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