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Analysis of Women WSOP Open Event Bracelet Winners Analysis of Women WSOP Open Event Bracelet Winners

06-22-2011 , 01:37 AM
The WSOP reports that through 29 events, 946 of 29,421 entrants have been women (3.2%).
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06-22-2011 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by shamus
The WSOP reports that through 29 events, 946 of 29,421 entrants have been women (3.2%).
If you exclude the Casino Employees event, 852 of the 28,571 entrants through Event #29 have been women (2.98%).
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06-25-2011 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by katie75013
It is really close.....
I would def have said pre 4/15 that Brandon would be on the correct side of this bet. The ladies definitely gained momentum in 2009-10, but 4/15 wiped out that progress, and so now I think we are pre-2009, meaning Brandon is on the wrong side of the bet.
Really, ladies- can we get some representation, please?

"Men represent 96.8 percent of all entries" (Andrew's ESPN WSOP blog) When 3.2% is considered a 'decent' year for players..... just ugh.

I would have though the percentage would be higher by now, even with the PBF April setback.

Of course, my game invitation list is only about 15% women, so maybe I've set my expectations too high.
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07-01-2011 , 10:54 AM
Vanessa Peng is currently chip leader in event #50: $5000 Triple Chance No Limit Holdem. 34 players remaining
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07-02-2011 , 03:26 AM
Vanessa was 7/7, but is now 4/6. Good view of her from the WSOP final table live stream.

Payouts: 825,604 - 510,053 - 328,810 - 240,876 - 179,054 - 134,895

This is Vanessa's 2nd cash in a WSOP event, 1st in an open event. Her biggest cash to date was for 17k at the EPT/UKIPT 5k Main Event last September.
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07-02-2011 , 03:44 AM
Vanessa doubles. 99 v JJ aipf as she groans when she sees she's way behind. Board QQ958. I think she's chip leader now.

Vanessa's on twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/princessdonk
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07-02-2011 , 03:49 AM
She even looked embarrassed that she won that hand. She remained quite humble.
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07-02-2011 , 05:46 AM
Out in 6th to Darryl Ronconi who she sucked out on before. She shoved from UTG with 22 and Darryl called from the BB with 1010. GG. Vanessa wins $135k. Darryl was down to <6 BBs but is now chip leader.
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07-03-2011 , 09:56 PM
I'm going to go in a slightly different direction with this post . . .

This year, there were 1,055 entrants in the WSOP ladies event. According to media reports, there were approximately 15 men who entered the event (1.42% of the field). I believe that Jonathan Epstein (9th place) is the only man who cashed in the event. The tournament paid 117 spots, which means that 0.85% of the players who cashed were men.

In 2010, there were 1,054 entrants in the ladies event. IIRC, there were approximately 10 men who entered the event (0.95%). Bryce Daifuku (103rd) was the only man who cashed in the event. The tournament paid 117 spots, which means that 0.85% of the players who cashed were men.

What am I trying to get at?

The sample size is very small, but if you reversed genders and doubled the percentages above, it would look very similar to the data we are seeing re: women's results in open events.

One could therefore make the argument that it isn't necessarily a skill thing, but rather a numbers thing . . .

I know I'm not the first person to say that there is a need / desire to increase women's participation in open events, nor will I be the last. I know I'm not the only person who is disheartened to hear from people like Nolan Dalla that despite year-over-year increases in number of entrants in WSOP events, % participation by women has remained constant.

But maybe (just maybe) there's more data to support the fact that it's a numbers thing rather than a skill thing . . .
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07-03-2011 , 11:00 PM
^^^Yeah, but how can that be if the women's event is such a soft field? Men should be cashing more! (I keed.)
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07-03-2011 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pezbaby
^^^Yeah, but how can that be if the women's event is such a soft field? Men should be cashing more! (I keed.)
Ohhhhh, I'm gonna smack you the next time I see you

(We've played at the same table in the past.)

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07-04-2011 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CKBWoP
I'm going to go in a slightly different direction with this post . . .

This year, there were 1,055 entrants in the WSOP ladies event. According to media reports, there were approximately 15 men who entered the event (1.42% of the field). I believe that Jonathan Epstein (9th place) is the only man who cashed in the event. The tournament paid 117 spots, which means that 0.85% of the players who cashed were men.

In 2010, there were 1,054 entrants in the ladies event. IIRC, there were approximately 10 men who entered the event (0.95%). Bryce Daifuku (103rd) was the only man who cashed in the event. The tournament paid 117 spots, which means that 0.85% of the players who cashed were men.

What am I trying to get at?

The sample size is very small, but if you reversed genders and doubled the percentages above, it would look very similar to the data we are seeing re: women's results in open events.

One could therefore make the argument that it isn't necessarily a skill thing, but rather a numbers thing . . .

I know I'm not the first person to say that there is a need / desire to increase women's participation in open events, nor will I be the last. I know I'm not the only person who is disheartened to hear from people like Nolan Dalla that despite year-over-year increases in number of entrants in WSOP events, % participation by women has remained constant.

But maybe (just maybe) there's more data to support the fact that it's a numbers thing rather than a skill thing . . .
I would then in turn argue that in open events men are not explicitly attempting to bust women, rather they are trying to accumulate chips to win the event etc. In the Women's Event it's pretty clear that in addition to winning pots and accumulating chips, women are likely explicitly attempting to bust men who are in the field. Now I was not that the event and don't have firsthand knowledge of any women trying to do this, but if many women cheering upon the occurrence that each man busted is proof then I think my theory has some validity. I do think you would see the same sort of thing if a visibly youthful player entered into the Senior Event.
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07-04-2011 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jbellfeins
I would then in turn argue that in open events men are not explicitly attempting to bust women, rather they are trying to accumulate chips to win the event etc. In the Women's Event it's pretty clear that in addition to winning pots and accumulating chips, women are likely explicitly attempting to bust anyone who is in the field. Now I was not that the event and don't have firsthand knowledge of any women trying to do this, but if many women cheering upon the occurrence that each man busted is proof then I think my theory has some validity. I do think you would see the same sort of thing if a visibly youthful player entered into the Senior Event.
FYP
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07-04-2011 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jbellfeins
I would then in turn argue that in open events men are not explicitly attempting to bust women, rather they are trying to accumulate chips to win the event etc. In the Women's Event it's pretty clear that in addition to winning pots and accumulating chips, women are likely explicitly attempting to bust men who are in the field. Now I was not that the event and don't have firsthand knowledge of any women trying to do this, but if many women cheering upon the occurrence that each man busted is proof then I think my theory has some validity. I do think you would see the same sort of thing if a visibly youthful player entered into the Senior Event.
I didn't see any evidence of this and don't see how women cheering when a guy busts provides proof. I was in the event with firsthand knowledge. I had a particularly tight guy at my table and the only times his shoves were called were standard spots with AQ and 88. I did hear some women make rude comments to him (which I'm not condoning) but they did not seem to be calling him down lighter or playing back at him more aggressively in an effort to bust him over accumulating chips.
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07-04-2011 , 05:11 PM
I think men in ladies events are more likely to get knocked out early, but also slightly more likely to accumulate a monster stack.

In a vacuum, I'd definitely call a male player in a ladies event lighter....because I'd assume he was more likely to be in a "bust-out" or "go-home" mentality, possibly lost a bet and may even feel embarassed to be there. It wouldn't have anything to do with me wanting to "spite" knock him out. Unless there was a significant bounty. I heard that one table had $900 worth of bounties on a guy at their table...don't love this idea...seems to me that such bets would make it slightly more likely for a man to win the bracelet and less likely to mincash.

Now if he shoves five hands in a row, that's a topic for a #TWSS party
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07-11-2011 , 09:57 PM
There are / were 242 women entrants in the Main Event (3.5%).
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07-12-2011 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by CKBWoP
There are / were 242 women entrants in the Main Event (3.5%).
And this, my friends, is why I support womens only tournaments. We need to get more women interested in the game.
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07-15-2011 , 11:00 PM
According to Bluff Magazine, 13 of the 242 women cashed / will cash in the Main Event.
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07-16-2011 , 05:00 PM
Here's some interesting analysis of the ITM rate by women in the 2011 Main Event: http://pokergrump.blogspot.com/2011/...wsop-main.html

(PokerGrump was the winner of the Dan Cates Main Event seat giveaway.)
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