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skier_5 has never used a bot, complied with Pokerstars at all times and changed his tools in the wake of ToS changes which were at the time primarily aimed at him.

Everyone is against bots/cheating, but 99% of regs would snap use a bot if they had the knowledge/skill and dedication to have done what he did. Only other player I can be sure of is isildur1.

He has made his software public now- so you can send him some money to see preflop charts and more. It sounds like FREEQONE has a sub.

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02-24-2018 , 11:27 AM

#78

carloshmz

newbie

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 18

i dont know to much about spins, but i know a little about chalenge in general, wtf this guy are doing?

absolut INSANE and INSANE results

Maximum respect!

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02-24-2018 , 12:12 PM

#79

Duncelanas

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,333

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Originally Posted by Mifari

FREEQONE, have you seen skier_5 preflop charts? How can I get/look at them? Could you say something more about them?

I guess he'd earn less money than he is doing during the challenge. He'd need over 100 chips/game on 2 tables, it's impossible anymore.

Literally go to the 2p2 thread for skier's software, contact skier, and buy access.

???

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02-25-2018 , 01:04 PM

#80

Greed|

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 29

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Originally Posted by Mifari

Hello guys, I have a problem. Can you check my calculations?

His graphs shows:
Tournaments: 8978
ChipEV: 42
$EV = ~20 500$

$EV = (((amt_expected_won / cnt_tourneys + 500) / 1500 * (1 - (amt_fee / amt_buyin_fee)) * 3) - 1.0) * amt_buyin_fee * cnt_tourneys

$EV = (((42 + 500) / 1500 * (1 - (5 / 100)) * 3) - 1.0) * 100 * 8978 = 26754.44 $

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...)+*+100+*+8978

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

You're calculating it as 95% money-back, which includes the highest multipliers, which the 'hero' doesn't hit because he's just not lucky enough to hit the milli' or for some reason Stars won't let him hit it.

The EV on Freeq is calculated as multiplier * EV chips won from the actual multipliers he hit rather than 'grand average if Stars are fair' 95% money back or some other amount.

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02-25-2018 , 04:12 PM

#81

sweetswing1

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 272

Wow great challenge man and im rooting for you.

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02-26-2018 , 11:05 AM

#82

25bb!

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4

Was this a missclick bro? or a genius fold? xD You got AJdd!

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02-26-2018 , 11:58 AM

#83

FREEQONE

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 269

you missreaded my hand bro
you know me, i would never fold any flush and any straight, expecially with diamond blocker

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02-26-2018 , 01:01 PM

#84

FREEQONE

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 269

My opinion is "HUD overrated", without big sample it is a useless space-filling
I'd rather study the trends of the players based on my handhistory database and change my strategy for this

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02-26-2018 , 02:17 PM

#85

25bb!

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 4

uhh godness...

gogogo Freeq! sending energy from here!

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02-26-2018 , 03:49 PM

#86

Knittle

adept

Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 828

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Originally Posted by FREEQONE

Prolly it is a leak, because nowadays avg winrate of avg 100s reg is : 45 chipev
Good regs hold 48-52 and best regs 55-60
So i'm veeeeery far from the perfect game
But my edge is volume
Pretty good value deal

About another pokerroom like Party, WPN, Winamax,
There is A LOT OF BOTS, and they do not even hesitate and do not try to seem like human, weird lines, sizings, donkbets

Although on PokerStars prolly there are bots, during the marathon I noticed at least two + people who play with skier_5 preflop charts, I do not know how they do it, maybe run on another computer and really abused preflop, it looks funny how a man plays completely GTO preflop and have no idea about basic postflop GTO patterns

After the marathon, I'll report them all if they don't stop.

How do I get my hands on those preflop charts? hehe

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02-27-2018 , 09:04 PM

#87

FakeOnMe

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 5

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Originally Posted by Knittle

How do I get my hands on those preflop charts? hehe

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...abase-1677018/

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02-28-2018 , 11:47 AM

#88

Lawboyy

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 47

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Originally Posted by FREEQONE

Where do you get these numbers from? I know multiple top guys having 60 cEV + and the best probably has 65-70.

Although I agree that 50 + is good anything ranging from 50-60 is far from best.

OT: Like your challenge! GL GL

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02-28-2018 , 12:24 PM

#89

MaTitheone

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 56

would love to see those multiple graphs with 60+ cev on 100s on a 20k+ samples

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02-28-2018 , 02:50 PM

#90

DOKILLO

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 84

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Originally Posted by Lawboyy

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Originally Posted by MaTitheone

would love to see those multiple graphs with 60+ cev on 100s on a 20k+ samples

Me too, also i dont think you need 20k, 12-15k could be enough.

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03-01-2018 , 07:21 PM

#91

SkillVsLuckK

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 15

It is doable guys.
I dont consider myself the top reg on 100s and i have 62 cev last 13k on 100s and 73 cev on last 9k games on 60s.

From my experience the most important variable on cev is multi-tabling. I remember the days when spinlyzer was active that the top regs that were mass multitabling (propably going for elite) had maximum 2% ev roi.
Regs that had 5-6% ev roi were playing 3-6 tables max.

Thats why i think its impressive to have 45 cev while playing 10 tables (its also impressive to play cascade).

Btw i am jamaica1717

Last edited by SkillVsLuckK; 03-01-2018 at 07:29 PM.

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03-01-2018 , 09:56 PM

#92

xPISCIVOROUSx

adept

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 752

he´s paying stacked tho

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03-01-2018 , 10:32 PM

#93

FREEQONE

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 269

No update for 15000 games guys
I'm soooo tired
Last push to 20K
God give me strength!

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03-02-2018 , 06:48 PM

#94

tAkE.mE.hOmE

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 43

Sending some energy and appreciation! Finish line in sight!

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03-02-2018 , 08:37 PM

#95

JohnnyJam

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 73

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Originally Posted by FREEQONE

No update for 15000 games guys
I'm soooo tired
Last push to 20K
God give me strength!

#KEEPUPTHEGRIND

book a nice vacation for your girl and yourself and visualize the end of this hardcore grind sitting on the beach relaxing with a lot more money on the bank.

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03-02-2018 , 10:11 PM

#96

p2ryan

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 821

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Originally Posted by FREEQONE

No update for 15000 games guys
I'm soooo tired
Last push to 20K
God give me strength!

sending tots and pears

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03-05-2018 , 09:17 PM

#97

Oxidosiss

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 4

gl man

impressive for me

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03-05-2018 , 10:17 PM

#98

A.Zivkovic

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 6

impressive. watched the stream few times and got dizzy

go for it and good luck

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03-07-2018 , 06:18 AM

#99

p2ryan

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 821

any updates on this? seems like this should be updated daily or somewhat often

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03-07-2018 , 08:23 AM

#100

xPISCIVOROUSx

adept

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 752

Yeah it should but whenever you´re trying to play 20k spins in 30 days if you get to the last week you´re pretty much in "zombie mode" give the guy a break he will surely update later on.

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