Finally got my t-summaries, compiled my statistics. I've paid 9.65%* effective rake on $7s (as opposed to 'overall' 7% or 7.93 (if you only hit up to 25x, incl.), or 8.6% effective rake if you never hit 25x.

*which explained my question why my cEV is good, I'm running over cEV in EV and still I make way too little monies on $7s

Game is hard, rake is too much

if you cant beat $7s you are just not playing well enough, the games are beatable for plenty despite the ridic rake

For an old times spin player w/ no tilt issues (hopefully) like yourself, yeah, for sure. How much ROI can You make in $7s if you grinded them, say 4k/mth volume?

For me it's like, I can prob. work on my game a bit and get 3.75 to 4.25 ROI no 5% in sight, lose my mind from the endless swings that come from having 3.75 to 4.25 evROI (thank god it's not lower), then withdraw $750, buy 48-pack of beer + burger components, make grill burgers (tastttyy!) and then die

Spins on 7s are very easy and beatable with a 7%+ ROI if you play solid and with a little study and it can go even higher to ~10 if you concentrate to 2 tables and crushing .
Rake is not visible like in hu sngs for example so its even easier , it affects you only if you run pretty bad at multiplyiers ..

You have to see where you have leaks , and fixed them .. and i`m pretty sure you can go over 5% ROI .

If you have a big sample and you're cEV is good what's the issue? These things are horrible for variance and unless you're putting in ridiculous volume it's easy to get the worse of it.

Yeah, but 7% ROI is 81cEV, even in big multipliers. So that's prob. like 85cEV base and a bit less in big multipliers.

Who makes 85cEV+ in $7s? Cu69atSng? Most regs just have their 65-70 and that's it, over large sample. 65 to 70 doesn't make 7% ROI if you never hit the 100x+ and bing it.

You guys are prob. right. I should just get my sh*t together for spins and then buy that stupid 48-pack + burgers and still have $1800 expendable BR on top of my normal poker br for that 120-bi shot at $15s once I'm done with 7s.

Who drinks 48 pack and lives? Nobody, but fk-it so to say, drink it slowly and live another day

I just have, like, a very bad default mindset for grindin poker. Fluked my 10x multiplier from 2-1 chip leader heads up to taking a bad flip, losing it, then 'unexploitable' push running into a better hand, then proceeded to run 7000 chips under EV yesterday & got emotional about it.

Who told you that ? most regs have 10% + ROI at 15s and over 7% at 30-60s.

Any decent regs makes easily 80cEV+ in 7$ .

Not many regs are making over 7% at 30s and 60s, or 10% at 15s. Chop off 1-2% and you're in the range of a good wr.

lolwut? anyone making 80+cev at 7s should move up

My experience with a bit of inspiration from this thread
https://smartspin.com/how-much-money...e-in-july-2018

Smart Spin is a big-ass-stable with loads of horsees. Enough to ez equip a small kingdom with mounted knights, if these were still the medieval times that is.

If those are the best results, pre-cut, the game is extremely hard.

Yeah it's like Bogdan is the most optimistic, I'm the pessimist and you're in the middle. But still, good wr = top range of regs.

This is mostly 5 tabling sometimes 6. I would guess 7s are beatable for 100+cev long term if you put in the work but then you would be better off just moving up anyway.

It's still possible to have a decent hourly even from 15s but l highly doubt anyone is making 10% ev roi at 15s long term.

sweet graph, thx for inspiration