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05-27-2017 , 02:25 AM

emvit

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Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 6

Hello. Could somebody please help me to find out am i right or am i wrong.

We play HU. Effective stack 90chips. We are at BB with 23o. We know that SB pushes 100% range(just lets take that for calculations).

If we fold we lose 20chips every hand.
If we call our equity=0,323 and ev=-11,86 chips.
That means that fold loses more than call and we need to call obviously.
But it is fold by Nash even agains 100% range.
Why so?

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05-27-2017 , 02:59 AM

8gameisfun

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 635

Nash equillibrium doesn't shove 100% at 4,5bb. And 180 * 0,323 = 58,1 .. which means you lose 31,9 chips.

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05-27-2017 , 03:15 AM

emvit

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Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 6

EV=probabilitytowin*reward-probabilitytolose*risk=0,323*(20+90)-(1-0,323)*70=-11,86
I have used SimpleNash and changed sb range manually, here is how our call range looks against 100% SBpush range.
http://prntscr.com/fcmkiy

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05-27-2017 , 06:23 AM

teddybloat

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Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 420

your ev calculation / methodology is off.

when you call you have .323 equity in a t180 chip pot

so your final stack on average is

.323 * 180 = t58.1 chips

when you fold your stack is always t70.

so folding is better than calling.

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05-27-2017 , 06:36 AM

teddybloat

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Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 420

your ev calc was from decision point and so is comparing calling to folding.

so -11.86 is saying calling is 11.86 chips worse than folding. not from start of hand.

you need to be consistent in your reference points when making EV calcs

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05-27-2017 , 12:18 PM

emvit

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Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 6

Thank you.

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