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09-04-2015 , 06:43 AM
Who has more skills heads up regular or heads up hyper turbo player when transitioning to high stakes online and live cash games?

I just want to know that by playing hyper turbo heads up games in large volume can reduce my post flop game skills in future.
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09-04-2015 , 10:53 AM
I'm pretty sure hyper turbo skills are less useful.
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09-04-2015 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MOV EAX
I'm pretty sure hyper turbo skills are less useful.
I also think in this way but can you tell me which games you prefers for skill development
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09-04-2015 , 12:13 PM
hu hypers actualy have a ton of post flop range spots/theory for 25bbs eff start stack so wouldnt decrese your post flop abilaty imo just a different animal, the best HU reg speed and the best HU hyper player will both be better at there chosen craft than the other but in HU skill wont be any different at all imo
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09-04-2015 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by squire1888
hu hypers actualy have a ton of post flop range spots/theory for 25bbs eff start stack so wouldnt decrese your post flop abilaty imo just a different animal, the best HU reg speed and the best HU hyper player will both be better at there chosen craft than the other but in HU skill wont be any different at all imo
Let's take an example... If you take one pro from HUHT and one pro from HU regular ans then both play a HU cash games multiple times then who has more edge at last?
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09-04-2015 , 01:59 PM
Most likely the hu turbo reg is better at deep hucash.
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09-04-2015 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gjbondgaurav21
Let's take an example... If you take one pro from HUHT and one pro from HU regular ans then both play a HU cash games multiple times then who has more edge at last?
It's a bad example. Hypers are more profitable hourly-wise, so u'd think the skill level of avg reg is better. And by skill level, i mean skill level in that particular game not overall. It should be harder to crush hypers than reg speeds. Maybe in micro stakes its different, since the avg reg speed recreational player might be really really bad and makes such awful mistakes for tons of bbs, but higher u go tougher the hypers get.

EDIT: kinda derailing, sry.

EDIT: for op, hyper skills might actually make u better, simply because a lot of small spr spots play like 3bet/4bet pots 100bb deep (ranges are different, but problem solving is the same). Otherwise, it shouldnt affect ur 100bb cash skills (obv if u take a long break u will be rusty anyway).

Last edited by cilderr; 09-04-2015 at 07:11 PM.
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09-05-2015 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gjbondgaurav21
Let's take an example... If you take one pro from HUHT and one pro from HU regular ans then both play a HU cash games multiple times then who has more edge at last?
but why would a hyper turbo specialist bother with cash games to begin with? And why would a HUSNG reg specialist bother with cash games to begin with as well?

for example, it would be illogical to have a boxer fight in a MMA type fight.

kind of a pointless debate/question if you ask me.
not being rude, just telling it as it is
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09-05-2015 , 02:27 AM
Just for the record Skai has won millions at cash, and not all of it hu cap cash.
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09-05-2015 , 03:38 AM
he also played LHE iirc
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09-05-2015 , 03:58 AM
All round beast
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09-05-2015 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Cog Dissonance
Just for the record Skai has won millions at cash, and not all of it hu cap cash.
So, tell me one thing if a heads up hyper turbo and heads up regular player are going to take part in live wsop 10000 dollars main event then who has more edge in this tournament against this large field?

Simple question is that which game is going to improve my tournament and cash game skills faster? Is it heads up regular game or heads up hyper turbo game?

At last, every online players has a dream to play in these live events. So, which game is going to help me the most with solid bankroll building?
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09-05-2015 , 06:18 AM
you should play both
Hypers will help you with end game stages of the MTT, like near the bubble or during the final table and reg husngs will help you understand ICM and will be all around helpful.

you don't have to choose one or the other. i assume no one is holding a gun to your head.
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09-05-2015 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by khrage
you should play both
Hypers will help you with end game stages of the MTT, like near the bubble or during the final table and reg husngs will help you understand ICM and will be all around helpful.

you don't have to choose one or the other. i assume no one is holding a gun to your head.
This is totally wrong. HUSNGs teach you nothing about ICM and bubble situations.
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09-05-2015 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by N4zgul
This is totally wrong. HUSNGs teach you nothing about ICM and bubble situations.
So which game you prefers for ICM learning?
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09-05-2015 , 09:48 AM
Any SNG that is not winner takes all.
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09-05-2015 , 09:53 AM
If u already decided to transition to live cashgame then why not just play online cash game instead of any kind of husng?
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09-05-2015 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by N4zgul
This is totally wrong. HUSNGs teach you nothing about ICM and bubble situations.
you're crazy if you think sngs don't help your MTT game.
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09-05-2015 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by khrage
you're crazy if you think sngs don't help your MTT game.

You specifically said ICM and there's no ICM in husngs
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09-05-2015 , 05:14 PM
all sngs help..again, crazy if you think skills from sngs dont help your mtt game in any way
even husngs help you when you are in hu situations
how is this not common sense lol
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09-05-2015 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by khrage
all sngs help..again, crazy if you think skills from sngs dont help your mtt game in any way
even husngs help you when you are in hu situations
how is this not common sense lol
How have you managed to ignore both posts saying there being no ICM in husngs? I don't think anybody is saying HU skills learned in husngs won't translate to short handed and HU situations in MTTs.
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09-05-2015 , 06:34 PM
i have all im saying is so many skills translate even icm plus many more
sngs are good practice for mtts
maybe its just me but i certainly think i have a better understanding towards end game stages in tournies
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09-07-2015 , 11:19 AM
You most definitely do, but what you refer to is not ICM.

Specifically for deep stacked cash games i'd imagine reg speed HUSNG is more applicable simply because the SPR is more representative of cash and you appreciate concepts such as protecting x/back ranges blah blah a little more naturally.
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09-07-2015 , 06:25 PM
I don't get this thread tbh - if OP wants to improve @ cash/mtts surely should play and focus on: ............surprise surprise, cash and/or mtts - ldo

having said that, husngs, and particularly hypers, are obv good for improving your endgame for when h/u @ mtt FTs or in SnGs, and they can improve your overall post-flop understanding and hand-reading skills vastly imo, as you are playing lots of hands both IP and OOP, and getting into lots of unusual/marginal spots

re the original q'n: I think reg speed husng pros do exist but are few and far between nowadays really, and many huht pros also do well in mtts - not sure that answers your q'n tho
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