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04-03-2011 , 04:59 PM
So I started playing 5$s reg speed HUSTNG 10 days ago,after 93 games player I have 19.1% roi.and 190$ bankroll.I want to know my BR,ROI requirement to move to 10$s.I would like to advise me what to read to improve my game.I will be grateful!
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04-03-2011 , 06:13 PM
At those levels I moved up when I had 20-30 BIs for the next level. Also, dont expect to maintain that roi, and from what I understand this question belongs in the beginners thread.
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04-03-2011 , 06:51 PM
You should have around 300 dollars for $10 buy-in to be comfortable. You could start at 200 but don't be afraid to move down in stakes if you don't do to well to start off with.

90 games is barely anything to really know your skill. When I first started playing S&G I had above 30% ROI for the first hundred games at turbos.
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04-03-2011 , 07:10 PM
yeah id play maybe another 400 games at that level if your still running good and beating the games and have a decent roi, which if you do your roll will follow then move up after that, or move up now but if you start gettin beat alot and feel out you depth then move back down again, no shame in movin down, there is however in going busto because you never moved down lol
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04-03-2011 , 07:13 PM
do it when your comfortable, also, you should play different levels, like 10s and 20s depending on how you feel, time of day, etc
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04-03-2011 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sqydro
yeah id play maybe another 400 games at that level if your still running good and beating the games and have a decent roi, which if you do your roll will follow then move up after that, or move up now but if you start gettin beat alot and feel out you depth then move back down again, no shame in movin down, there is however in going busto because you never moved down lol
i think playing 400 games is not necessary at all for micro stakes, especially when playing regular speeds. Move up, take shots whenever your br allows you to do so(25 buy-in is plentyish i think ). You can move down when u feel uncomfortable or get crushed.
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04-03-2011 , 08:50 PM
I am currently playing the 10s and I just bottomed out at 22 buy-ins. I've had these sorts of downers before, so I don't think that playing on 20bi's is a great idea if you refuse to move down (like me).

You're probably beating the 5s and if you can replenish your roll, you are probably okay to give the 10s a shot when you get to $200 or so (or better yet, just deposit more money), but the chances of busto are probably around 5% if you refuse to move down.

For me, I like to play on 30+ bi's, so I won't play the 20s until I have $630.

While the arguments for rushing up the roll are solid, ie.: you are leaving a ton of money on the table, there arguments for nittery are also strong:

1- If you successfully get to the 30 to 35 buy-ins before moving up, you are more likely to actually beat the levels you are moving up to.

2- The devastating downswing will happen. It's not a matter of "if" but "when." I'm pretty sure everyone has, or will go through a 30+ downer.

With these considerations, you have to make the proper decision based on how valuable your roll is. If you can't replenish it, nittery is optimal, IMO. However, if you can replace it with the next paycheck, then adventuring is optimal.
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04-03-2011 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dhcg86
do it when your comfortable, also, you should play different levels, like 10s and 20s depending on how you feel, time of day, etc
really? When do you think the optimal time during the day to play is at the 10 and 20s?
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04-03-2011 , 09:02 PM
my rule of thumb has always been to move up when I'm so deep in the red I have no realistic hope of winning it back at my current stake.
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04-03-2011 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
my rule of thumb has always been to move up when I'm so deep in the red I have no realistic hope of winning it back at my current stake.
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04-04-2011 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BamBam192
really? When do you think the optimal time during the day to play is at the 10 and 20s?
12:30 A.M. For the 20's

5:45 P.M. the $10's
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04-04-2011 , 02:41 AM
If I were you I would take shots at higher limits with around 20 buyins untill I came to the $30's. I really dont feel there is that much difference between $5 and $20 players. I seemed to run into waaaaay more bad players at $20 than good players with solid stats.

When taking shots I tend to do so at around 20 buyins, but then if I lose the first one I normally drop back down. Even if it was lost due to variance, not skill level. I guess thats pretty nitty, but thats how I roll.

Just remember, taking a shot at $10 games doesnt mean play $10s continously irrespective of profit / loss! Play the odd $10 game once you get to $200, and if you find that you are comfortable/profitable at this level, then feel free to continue.
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04-04-2011 , 05:20 AM
After all I read I think of building my Br up to 300$ and then start playing the 10s.I might play one 10$s every 10 5$s I play.Ty everyone!
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04-04-2011 , 05:20 AM
your doing it wrong OP. focus on learning and not moving up. the stakes are all very very similar until the 100s. it doesnt get "tough" until the 20s imo, then u will have to learn some new things, then the 50s are fairly easy to conquer after that. the 80s are the same as the 50s but not quite the 100s, and then the 100s might take a while (for some reason i had a stigma about playing $100 a game when i got to this level). at the 200s u will have to play me (sadly nobody else ****ing sits newbies coming to this level which tilts the **** out of me. apparently except for IT2WU who will sit his old students ), and thats where the real fun begins

Soooooo ya, to answer your question, move up when u feel comfortable. I was a br nit back in the day, and focused more on learning the game. Then when i thought i was ready i flew through the stakes using a 20 BI rule and moved up as fast as possible. I srsly recomend this because you will see less fluctuations in your br as you are learning the game, as compared to moving up as soon as you have xx ammount of bIs. It is very disheartening to move up when ur at 20 BIs, and then moving back down because u just werent ready and lost it all.
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04-04-2011 , 05:25 AM
The only reason Im not moving up quickly, is because I cannot yet accept the fact im losing a lot of money cuz of variance. I like to be largely overrolled for stakes, so I dont tilt.

I know it's bad, and trying to pull myself together and read alot of poker psychology... but still I tend to get frustrated really fast after losing 4 games of 55$s in a row.

If you don't have this problem, I recommend aggressive bankroll management, and move up really fast if you know you beat the games. Like 30bi's orso.
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04-04-2011 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by t1lt
The only reason Im not moving up quickly, is because I cannot yet accept the fact im losing a lot of money cuz of variance. I like to be largely overrolled for stakes, so I dont tilt.

I know it's bad, and trying to pull myself together and read alot of poker psychology... but still I tend to get frustrated really fast after losing 4 games of 55$s in a row.

If you don't have this problem, I recommend aggressive bankroll management, and move up really fast if you know you beat the games. Like 30bi's orso.
this. im having a tough time at the 500s right now because ive been godmoding the 200s and then running like death at the 500s. its tilting beyong belief to have a "winning session" and yet still be down 2k.
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