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what should i do ? for an all in after flop to a LAG with top per top kicker ?

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11-06-2010 , 07:17 AM

erdsah

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Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.10 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1860 31 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1140 19 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BTN/SB with A

Hero calls t30, BB checks

Flop: (t120) J

(2 players)
BB bets t1800 all in

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11-06-2010 , 07:21 AM

crush

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call
we are so often ahead here, pretty rarely he has 2 pair or str8. im pretty sure call here is ev+, especially at 1$ stake

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11-06-2010 , 07:24 AM

erdsah

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thanks i guess call on the flop with a top per top kicker is ok.

do u think i should even call to a TAG player ?

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11-06-2010 , 07:29 AM

crush

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aganist mega nit I will fold
but I need really know he only push there 2pair+

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11-06-2010 , 07:36 AM

BetMagicMoney

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Vs lag i snap call!

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11-06-2010 , 07:40 AM

erdsah

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mega nit

define mega nit ?

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11-06-2010 , 07:57 AM

AmonRaa

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pray tell, why didnt you raise pre?

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11-06-2010 , 08:38 AM

rollinas

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Originally Posted by AmonRaa

pray tell, why didnt you raise pre?

I bet he was trapping

***against super mega ultra nit im calling all day

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11-06-2010 , 09:44 AM

crush

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Originally Posted by erdsah

define mega nit ?

its guy who only raise his good hand TP+ postflop,preflop open only premium hands, 3bets QQ+, fold soo much to bets if he doesn't hit.

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11-06-2010 , 09:49 AM

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DocDevil

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raise pre for christ sake, and snap it

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11-07-2010 , 03:12 AM

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erdsah

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raise pre for christ sake, and snap it

as i see by not raising pre flop i let my self get in traps...

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11-07-2010 , 05:23 AM

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Stephen730

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I don't mind the limp - kinda like it actually - if you thought it would get villain to spew preflop like he did on the flop. But you should raise AKs pretty much always.

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11-07-2010 , 02:19 PM

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mithras

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Originally Posted by Stephen730

I don't mind the limp - kinda like it actually - if you thought it would get villain to spew preflop like he did on the flop. But you should raise AKs pretty much always.

Limp preflop is ******ed...

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11-07-2010 , 02:40 PM

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Stephen730

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Originally Posted by mithras

Limp preflop is ******ed...

I think it's really really bad if villain hasn't shown pf aggression. At this stage in the match OP should have some idea of what villain's tendencies are OOP pf.

Villain is defined as LAG and looks fairly reckless on the basis of this hand. I suspect he aggressively attacked hero's limps. This is like the perfect kind of villain to coax a spew shove out of pre.

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11-07-2010 , 02:47 PM

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mithras

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Originally Posted by Stephen730

trapping is overrated. I think you just miss way too much equity by limping AK.

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11-07-2010 , 02:52 PM

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Ronin Talken

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limping is terrible...
never do this again IMHO...

And, honestly, I've never seen this spot before. Don't have much of a comment.
Ya know, because I've never had TPTK in a pot where I limped the BTN.

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11-07-2010 , 02:56 PM

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DocDevil

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Originally Posted by mithras

trapping is overrated. I think you just miss way too much equity by limping AK.

Against the right type it works pretty well, but u MUST have a CLEAR read he'll attack ur limps way more often than he cbh. And looks like op don't have that read. So raise that baby up!

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11-07-2010 , 03:20 PM

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Stephen730

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Originally Posted by DocDevil

Against the right type it works pretty well, but u MUST have a CLEAR read he'll attack ur limps way more often than he cbh. And looks like op don't have that read. So raise that baby up!

Ok, yeah. That sounds right to me.

OP, yeah, you should have raised this pre. And of course snap call the flop. Just know that sometimes... sometimes... limping AKs is not bad.

Last edited by Stephen730; 11-07-2010 at 03:26 PM.

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11-07-2010 , 03:42 PM

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De_Evolution

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he will have 2p now that you played it terribly preflop

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