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05-17-2009 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by another_rack
I miss those long escalators out of the subway in BP, especially behind the girls with the short shorts in summer.
true that's really weird, I totally forgot how long those escalators are compared to most places... I DO miss europe ;p
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05-17-2009 , 11:58 PM
You probably haven't forgotten the short shorts, or maybe that was the style 15 years ago.

/old guy
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05-18-2009 , 01:20 AM
While all the Euro talk is cute, I do have a poker question for Primo. I actually just made this post on HUSNG and would like your take:

Calling an all-in with A9 vs a tilty LAG donk at 30BBs
Sun, 05/17/2009 - 20:35 — DntCaltACmBk

Do we do it? I just lost a match after having the lead over a LAG donk who was clearly getting frustrated after losing so many big pots, and he shoved his 900 chip stack with KQ at 15/30 and I called with A9. Queen hit, whatever. Versus these types of players - the type who eventually beat you by chasing their gutshot to the river - should we just wait to take it to the flop and have them make their mistakes there rather than flipping 30 BBs with an ace?
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05-18-2009 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by another_rack
What if you're a steak jumping degen like Filthy?
hahahaha!! this made me lol literally. i have had a couple of months where i won over 50% of my husngs and had double digit negative roi but sometimes it works in reverse. this month i am winning 53% which should give me about a 2% roi, but this month it's almost 20% woo hoo!
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05-18-2009 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by another_rack
Are there any winning players older than the camel?
fml. I am not THAT old!
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05-18-2009 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by The Camel
fml. I am not THAT old!
sorry for the offtopic primo. how old are you then Camel?
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05-18-2009 , 07:06 AM
Primo :

How important is the dynamic of the match, and playing a level above (dynamic wise) compared to math and unexploitable play in HUSNG ?

What are your thoughts on aggressive shot taking ?
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05-18-2009 , 10:19 AM
1. Do you think your bigger edge against break-even players is with superior theory, or superior hand reading?

2. I assume you aren't making all your money off winning regs, so who do the regs mostly beat up on? Losing players, winning players at lower limits or winners at other forms of poker?
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05-18-2009 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DntCaltACmBk
While all the Euro talk is cute, I do have a poker question for Primo. I actually just made this post on HUSNG and would like your take:

Calling an all-in with A9 vs a tilty LAG donk at 30BBs
Sun, 05/17/2009 - 20:35 — DntCaltACmBk

Do we do it? I just lost a match after having the lead over a LAG donk who was clearly getting frustrated after losing so many big pots, and he shoved his 900 chip stack with KQ at 15/30 and I called with A9. Queen hit, whatever. Versus these types of players - the type who eventually beat you by chasing their gutshot to the river - should we just wait to take it to the flop and have them make their mistakes there rather than flipping 30 BBs with an ace?

basic range assignment, unless he is TOTALLY awful and DEFINENTLY going to spew all his chips to me post the first time I connect w/TP, then if I think im 55% against his range or better, i'll snap call here
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05-18-2009 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by alexrmM
Primo :

How important is the dynamic of the match, and playing a level above (dynamic wise) compared to math and unexploitable play in HUSNG ?

What are your thoughts on aggressive shot taking ?
Match dynamic (leveling) is very very important, and can give you an unquantifiable edge that 'unexploitable' play will never be able to do, unexploitable will only minimize their edge, or not allow them to get one** , but being able to follow match flow closely and really be on a level above your opponent is worth more than anything else



Aggressive shot taking is OK if the $$$ doesnt mean the world to you, obv everyone wants their $$$, but if your playing for a living, or depend on a monthly steady income, I wouldnt advise it
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05-18-2009 , 10:43 AM
whut do you think of livb?
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05-18-2009 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sbarber
1. Do you think your bigger edge against break-even players is with superior theory, or superior hand reading?


Superior theory for sure, because if they can't hand read well, I feel super confident my theory is pretty solid and I can level them in a ton of spots, especially against BE/marginal players, or 2p2 players coming up who haven't 'grown' out of the '2p2 mold' yet, I find these players as some of the easiest to play most times just cause I know exactly where they are in their thought process at most points


2. I assume you aren't making all your money off winning regs, so who do the regs mostly beat up on? Losing players, winning players at lower limits or winners at other forms of poker?

Alot of it is losing players coming up and taking shots, but the higher you go, the more frequently it's big winners at other forms of poker trying to learn HU SNG
.
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05-18-2009 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
whut do you think of livb?
I think he adapts sicker than anybody that i've ever played, if you play him for a large series of games you will see what i'm talking about, he puts you in alot of spots your not used to seeing, and is really good at adapting and taking you out of your comfort zone, or where your normally most profitable... he is for sure very tough to play (when he's not tilting )
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05-18-2009 , 10:46 AM
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- Where would you start teaching someone who is completely new to poker with a view to becoming a winning small stakes hu sng player? (really need help with this one)


Yea, I have done this on multiple accounts with family members / friends

Dude i have no idea what that means...

I was just wondering how you would seek to teach someone poker so that one day they could grind some $ on small stakes HU SNG's.

Like which books, free play sites, videos, software would you reccomend?

I'm trying to teach a few friends of mine who barely know hand rankings or what a counterfeited hand is. How would you begin to teach poker to someone like that. Where do i start teaching?

Also, thanks for your reply to all my questions, you seem like a grounded guy.
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05-18-2009 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TakeHerOnACruise
Dude i have no idea what that means...

I was just wondering how you would seek to teach someone poker so that one day they could grind some $ on small stakes HU SNG's.

Like which books, free play sites, videos, software would you reccomend?


I'm trying to teach a few friends of mine who barely know hand rankings or what a counterfeited hand is. How would you begin to teach poker to someone like that. Where do i start teaching?
Also, thanks for your reply to all my questions, you seem like a grounded guy.
wow I totally misread that question, I had thought you said "Would you ever try teaching someone from the ground up... (etc)..." (and obv I meant multiple accounts as in different times, not multi-accounting




First I would start off obviously just teaching them hand strength, explaining how HU SNGs work, etc., etc.

Then I would have them play some games

Then I would have them watch my HU SNG From Scratch: Introductory Concepts ;p


then I would have them play some more games

Then I would have them maybe read collin moshmans book

then teach them about different player types or adapting toy our opponents (my intermediate concepts vid ;p)

then have them play more games



.... WINNER at small stakes



seriously tho, that's prolly what i'd do if I was going to turn one of my friend into a small stakes winner, to start at last
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05-18-2009 , 11:43 AM
Can u given an example or 2 describing some of the adjustments livb made against u. Hes always really interested me alot coz u watch some of the things he does and think that cant be profitable vs anyone decent but obv hes the man. Like ive seen him minraising against imthefranchise whos obv very good at 7bb and folding to shoves, like how can that not be superexploitable. He also seems to do a tonne of 3 bet folding at 25bb which u dont really see anyone else doing at least not as much zs him.
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05-18-2009 , 12:03 PM
Any quick tips on how to get better at assigning hand ranges? I've been playing about a year and this aspect of the game still seems like so much voodoo to me.
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05-18-2009 , 12:21 PM
What percentage of your profit would you estimate comes from droolers? As in, not "winning/breakeven reg types who are ok to good but you outplay"?
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05-18-2009 , 12:28 PM
Skiing or snowboarding?
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05-18-2009 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Camel
fml. I am not THAT old!
Yes, how old are you, and what does another_rack define as a "winning" player.

For example, odds are very good that I'm older than you, and I am (sortof) a winning player. (compared to most people I am, compared to you...not so much)

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05-18-2009 , 01:33 PM
What (non-poker) book had the biggest influence on your life?
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05-18-2009 , 01:37 PM
will you stake me for the 25k on ftp?
pm for stats
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05-18-2009 , 02:02 PM
SNG vs. Cash

- Is one harder to master than the other

- Once a player is beating the $5ks over a big sample where do they go from there, what stakes can they expect to beat?

- It's the 2p2 group think that 6max/FR guys are better/make more money than MTT/SNG regs, do you feel it is the same in cash vs. sng's? There was a lot of discussion about this in the Livb grap thread in BBV or NVG.

- kinda would like your opinions on the 2 games and the pros and cons of each type of HU NL?

- Would you quite poker if all you could do was one table No Increase sngs?
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05-18-2009 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pushing22
will you stake me for the 25k on ftp?
pm for stats
confirmed, skilled busto.
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05-18-2009 , 02:19 PM
I have seen a bunch of the High Stakes regs (including livb) min-raise on the button. Is this a gd strategy? Is it better in some levels than others?

Thx
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