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07-10-2009 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
believe it's discussed earlier in the thread, I try to have 100+, some people play on 30-ish, I wouldnt reccomend less. It depends on your winrate, confidence, and the way swings effect you
Hey primo, I played against you couple times the other night. When you say this, does this mean just your poker roll, or your whole life roll? Do you seperate these two? thanks, hope i didnt skim over this if you answered it
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07-10-2009 , 05:56 PM
Hi, do you have any experience related to kickback bonus whoring, initial deposit bonus whoring, monthly recurring bonus bonus whoring?

If yes, when would you say, initial deposit / monthly recurring bonus bonus whoring becomes more profitable then kickback bonus whoring?

If yes, when would you say, rakeback becomes more profitable then initial deposit / monthly recurring bonus?

Maybe rather stupid questions ... but yeah ...
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07-10-2009 , 06:04 PM
ty primo
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08-03-2009 , 01:21 PM
Hey Primo, w0rd up, u g0t s1k vids..

btw, why do you say that Collin Moshman is usually a ton off? I liked his book personally, and I like your videos too.. it just seems weird that you wouldn't like his book.. anyways holla.!
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08-03-2009 , 03:01 PM
Primo, ever considering staking someone and turning them into a baller like yourself?
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08-03-2009 , 03:03 PM
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Primo, ever considering staking someone and turning them into a baller like yourself?
tried that once but I didn't get any good applicants



edit: jkjk (to anybody who doesn't know), Micky08 and Radeh are the two new people in my 6 month staking/coaching deal, so hopefully they'll both be super baller ASAP

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08-03-2009 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBonBons
Hey man, how's it goin! Just after reading your entire well & 'ave got some major tips already, so cheers!

I've just started HU s'ng's & was very intrigued by a conversation you had with a previous 'poster' where you suggested he 'work' at his game at the 30-20, 20-10, 10 or less BB levels, & shove/re-shove moves. If you could elaborate on this I'd really appreciate it. Specifically maybe:

(1) the nuances between the different levels;


20-30bb is super player dependent, vs alot of people you will want to be MR'ing pre here alot cause they will fold their BB often, others limp + stab flops, and some you will raise a tighter range cause you will expect the to jam alot, so alot of this depends on your reads on your opponent going into this level

10-20bb , there isn't a ton of room to work with, so I end up limping a good portion of my middling cards (and if my opponent is super aggro vs me i'll limp in my upper ranges as well), and I will MR some air and some big hands in hopes they fold their BB often. When im getting around 10-12bb I start to open-shove alot of hands I might not like them to call OOP, like A2o and stuff like that, cause they put me in many tricky spots postflop

<10bb will be shove or fold, shove alot if your opponent is very tight, and tighten up your range a bit (but still shove pretty frequently) if they call very wide



(2) determining shove or re-shove moves; &


Math and knowing your opponent tendencies. There are a few threads around here (one by insane_Steve) on reshoving at 20bb, and i've made some videos on it

(3) software 'you' might practice on outside of the playing domain.


Fool around with Pokerstove to find ranges and plug them into some different equations in spots to refine some of the trickier spots in your game, but other than that there isnt much HUSNG software out there


As an aside what are the major differences between regular & turbo games, besides from the obvious that is (before a smart ass tries to enlighten me). Getting more active early…..the end game & such.......


Just the edges you can find, in reg speeds you can find very big edges and have a big winrate, where as in turbos your forced to take smaller edges but can get in many more games per hour


Anyway, cheers in advance & best of luck on both the marriage & tables front!!!

Thanks alot , much appreciated
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08-03-2009 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nowhere2be
Hey primo, I played against you couple times the other night. When you say this, does this mean just your poker roll, or your whole life roll? Do you seperate these two? thanks, hope i didnt skim over this if you answered it
haha, I keep my poker and life rolls a little too close alot of times, I guess im referring to life-roll, since I dont like to keep more than 40-50 BI online for the limits im playing
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08-03-2009 , 03:27 PM
Primo,


How was it Playing HU Live vs Good hu players as opposed to playing good Online players?. were the players in that Tourny really any Good? do you think you should have been able to win? John Duthie ......WTF? nice run
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08-03-2009 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Emus
Hi, do you have any experience related to kickback bonus whoring, initial deposit bonus whoring, monthly recurring bonus bonus whoring?


no, sorry


If yes, when would you say, initial deposit / monthly recurring bonus bonus whoring becomes more profitable then kickback bonus whoring?

If yes, when would you say, rakeback becomes more profitable then initial deposit / monthly recurring bonus?

Maybe rather stupid questions ... but yeah ...

No problem, I wish I had more expertise in this to help you out
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08-03-2009 , 03:30 PM
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Hey Primo, w0rd up, u g0t s1k vids..

btw, why do you say that Collin Moshman is usually a ton off? I liked his book personally, and I like your videos too.. it just seems weird that you wouldn't like his book.. anyways holla.!
Ehhh, im not saying he's a ton off, but I just don't think he's an amazing HU SNG authority, and that there were tonnssssss of other people better suited to write that book. I think the book is a good resource and starting point for new players, but nothing ground breaking, and I just dont <3 the moshman ;p;p


and thanks a ton on the vids
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08-03-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Deewhizzle
Primo,


How was it Playing HU Live vs Good hu players as opposed to playing good Online players?. were the players in that Tourny really any Good? do you think you should have been able to win? John Duthie ......WTF? nice run
yea, It was alot different, like I feel some players were out of their element a little bit. In my match vs skilled I kind of ran him over, which obv would never be the case online, I think alot of players tighten up their game a bit live, or maybe overthink some decisions that might be automatic online. Bballer88 played pretty sick aggro in our match in the final 16, but I think I adapted well. Long term online I think both him and skilled would obv have a big edge on me, I just happened to get the best of them live. And yea... I do think I should have been able to win, maybe I should have played a bit more passive when I had doudney down to <half his stack, sigh... I would crush Duthie next round too... fml... gotta do it another year I guess
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08-03-2009 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
yea, It was alot different, like I feel some players were out of their element a little bit. In my match vs skilled I kind of ran him over, which obv would never be the case online, I think alot of players tighten up their game a bit live, or maybe overthink some decisions that might be automatic online. Bballer88 played pretty sick aggro in our match in the final 16, but I think I adapted well. Long term online I think both him and skilled would obv have a big edge on me, I just happened to get the best of them live. And yea... I do think I should have been able to win, maybe I should have played a bit more passive when I had doudney down to <half his stack, sigh... I would crush Duthie next round too... fml... gotta do it another year I guess
hah remeber reading that online when they updated it...i was like damn he would have rolled john Duthie...then Primo FTW..IHMO, still well played. i bet some of the Onliners will come back next year and play a whole lot better..
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08-03-2009 , 04:34 PM
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Ehhh, im not saying he's a ton off, but I just don't think he's an amazing HU SNG authority, and that there were tonnssssss of other people better suited to write that book.
+1

I think it was a decent book for someone just beginning HU and needs the ABC basics. Anyone with a clue about HU would not find it generally usefull IMO.

+1

On primo's vids are very good.
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08-03-2009 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
yea, It was alot different, like I feel some players were out of their element a little bit. In my match vs skilled I kind of ran him over, which obv would never be the case online, I think alot of players tighten up their game a bit live, or maybe overthink some decisions that might be automatic online. Bballer88 played pretty sick aggro in our match in the final 16, but I think I adapted well. Long term online I think both him and skilled would obv have a big edge on me, I just happened to get the best of them live. And yea... I do think I should have been able to win, maybe I should have played a bit more passive when I had doudney down to <half his stack, sigh... I would crush Duthie next round too... fml... gotta do it another year I guess
not so sure i wouldnt sometimes get run over online. i played super aggro and missed a lot.
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08-03-2009 , 11:18 PM
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cool question Rolon, lemme break it down

You: I think you did fine, it seems like you've never had a super structured approach to some stuff, but naturally you seem to understand hand ranges and inflection points pretty well, so I think it should be really easy for you to change a few small things and see your results increase a ton. You did really well compared to most students
What's an inflection point?


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Anyways, just putting in some time to learn player inflection points at those stack sizes, and going through some basic shove/reshove math in different spots should get you up to speed pretty quickly, and probably maximize your edge vs most of the worse opponents at those levels
What are these different spots you would suggest learning the shove/reshove math of? Are you referring to this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...ective-444194/

Or something else?
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01-10-2010 , 01:56 AM
I <3 Primo
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01-10-2010 , 01:58 AM
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I <3 Primo
haha, nice bump , tytyty =]
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01-10-2010 , 02:07 AM
What kinds of qualities do you look for in a PA?

Why did you say you were going to stop posting on 2p2 when it was obviously false even when you said it?

What have you done to try to fulfill your "no posting" promise?
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01-10-2010 , 02:09 AM
He's shipping you $200, remember?
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01-10-2010 , 02:09 AM
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He's shipping you $200, remember?
I meant besides living up to his promises.
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01-10-2010 , 02:32 AM
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What kinds of qualities do you look for in a PA?

been discussed... use the search feature fish

Why did you say you were going to stop posting on 2p2 when it was obviously false even when you said it?


I havent been playing much lately, I dont mind being on 2p2 when im not grinding, I just have a problem w/2p2 and chat stuff when im in my daily grind, and it's distracting me / cutting into my hourly


What have you done to try to fulfill your "no posting" promise?

play less... to enable me to post an equivalent amount to before and not notice that im not posting while playing anymore
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01-10-2010 , 03:12 AM
Do you cry when you were like +6 buyins during your break, and then you're like -2 buyins when you end the day?

Does it make you want to be a volume fish?

I struggle with these.
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01-10-2010 , 10:53 AM
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Do you cry when you were like +6 buyins during your break, and then you're like -2 buyins when you end the day?

Does it make you want to be a volume fish?

I struggle with these.
I never end -2Bi for the day unless I was like -15 BI before it, I have a sick problem (seriously, ask filthy) with ending while im down, I try to grind to even so much it's ******ed, and it's a huge reason why when I have big losing days, they are HUGE, like -10k, not -2k or something, I dunno, it's a bad habit im trying to quick, but short answer, no I dont cry, cause I never have the chance, but alot of times -2 BI feels like im +4k cause I got back from being stuck a million
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01-10-2010 , 12:33 PM
i enjoy watching your vids as well. what would you say would be one skill or feature you have or use that is unique and don't think other high stake players use?
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