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07-14-2011 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
What odds would be fair if Spam challenges you to HU4ROLLZZ?
Depends on structure obv, but he'd be a favorite in anything but STs, even after being removed from poker for a while. The guy is a legend.

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Originally Posted by Tamas6
asked this a while ago in regs thread and didnt get an answer:

game theory wise when you have a bluff catcher do all bluff catchers have equal value? what i mean is if you are facing a bet on the river and you call with a bluff catcher. should you be calling 100% of your bluff catchers? and if you are folding should you be folding 100% of your bluff catchers?


how do you define/measure intelligence?
Game theory wise, there are a lot of situations where you should randomize and call sometimes with bluff catchers and fold other times, and a good proxy for this is just calling with the top of your bluffcatching range, since why not use that? More practically in exploitative matches it's either going to be correct to call with a bluffcatcher or correct to fold, and you shouldn't randomize because one or the other simply has better expectation, you just have to figure out which one it is. But it's hard to say one bluffcatcher isn't better than another, some have blockers, some are stronger hands and will occasionally beat made hands turned into a bluff more often, etc.

There are multiple intelligences, here's a good wiki to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_..._intelligences

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Originally Posted by MechanicalBoy
a question about level up:

assume you're playing hu sng from december 2010, started with 5s, now with a 59% of winrate @ 20s reg speed . You have very few time for playing poker (fulltime job, girlfriend, hobby, sport) and you can afford about 250 games/month (I have just 2k games lifetime). You're playing for fun and for (little) money too.

Would you still shot the 30s if you have the roll? with the intention of shotting the 50s?
Yes. Be willing to move down quickly if things don't go your way, be ready for that possible outcome, don't let that kill your fun. Mixing between stakes often helps a lot.
07-14-2011 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ExpensiveTaste
You mention not being afraid to move up

I currently play the $15 ST's

How many buy ins would you recommend for the super turbos when moving up?

Do you think the " suggested" 100 BI's Is too many?

Many thanks Mers
50BI moving fluidly through the levels (up or down) is a better guideline.

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Originally Posted by t1lt
Will there be another read-only opportunity for the fasttrack program? And what will people miss when they only purchase read only? I like reading endless posts of strategy, so I can read it over and over again to understand. So afaik it would be quite valuable?

Also what do you think of the current 2+2 husng section, I find it's overwelmed by a lot of non interesting hands/bad players, and I think that's the reason why not many of the good guys post strat anymore. I feel like it's all beind discussed.... and where are the days, there was atleast 1 or 2 $1000+ strat thread to read?
Still deciding details of fasttrack program in August, so not sure yet about read-only.

Nobody has stepped up to fill the void of the old guard's strategy posting in this forum. They're getting their strategy from other places (IM/skype often) and don't feel the same sense of community and value from passing down knowledge that past generations of posters have had. That's too bad and I hope it changes. Tip of the Week has been cool except that it's mostly just been the old guard posting and not any of the new people coming up, like it was intended to encourage.

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Originally Posted by t1lt
Did you mention Poker in your job interview? Or does your new company knows about you playing poker?
Yep, they knew a lot about my experience before I even got the interview.
07-14-2011 , 05:22 AM
Just want to say, <3, I have a ton of respect for you, and I wish we had got to hang out more in Vegas, and i'm def. going to try to make it to chicago to hang out w/you and the 2 others there, v sick / congrats on everything
07-14-2011 , 05:24 AM
Hi mers, thx for the well:

-How did you family reacted when you first get into poker? when it became clear that you were successfull at it? Did you had any hard time explaining that no, poker was not total gambling and other common bull**** to your relatives?

-Did your non poker friends know that you won so much money and if yes, did it affect your relationship with them? Did poker affected it? ex: losing touch with some of them?

ty!

Last edited by seboutchhh; 07-14-2011 at 05:26 AM. Reason: btw, congrats for beeing such a successfull player!
07-14-2011 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
Just want to say, <3, I have a ton of respect for you, and I wish we had got to hang out more in Vegas, and i'm def. going to try to make it to chicago to hang out w/you and the 2 others there, v sick / congrats on everything
Right back at you, was great to finally meet up. I look forward to you continuing to be very successful in the poker world for a long time to come or whatever else you pursue.
07-14-2011 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
Just want to say, <3, I have a ton of respect for you, and I wish we had got to hang out more in Vegas, and i'm def. going to try to make it to chicago to hang out w/you and the 2 others there, v sick / congrats on everything
Yet you still haven't made it to Australia you fffffffffffff donk.

Mers, any interest in visiting Australia?
07-14-2011 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by seboutchhh
Hi mers, thx for the well:

-How did you family reacted when you first get into poker? when it became clear that you were successfull at it? Did you had any hard time explaining that no, poker was not total gambling and other common bull**** to your relatives?

-Did your non poker friends know that you won so much money and if yes, did it affect your relationship with them? Did poker affected it? ex: losing touch with some of them?

ty!
When I first started playing poker seriously it was at a time in my life where I wasn't very happy and didn't get a lot of joy out of much. My parents were a bit nervous about poker, but they saw my passion for it and didn't want to take away something I was really interested in, especially at that time. I had to assure them that it wasn't like I could incur debts that people would bang down my door trying to collect, the whole process of only being able to risk what you have in your account and the funds being transferred instantly from another player's account when you beat them, etc. Once I demonstrated consistent success over a decent sample they became even more supportive.

The only person who still struggles with it is one of my grandmothers, who is very conservative socially. She appreciates the charity angle but is still trying to process the notion of skill in poker. Amusingly, she really started to understand when she learned that poker got me this new job, but of course it doesn't matter as much now.

Money never drove a wedge between my friends and I, mostly because I didn't try to become somebody new or pretend I was something I wasn't. When I did "baller" things with money I laughed at myself with them about it and didn't try to cultivate a new persona where I was someone cooler than the dork I've always been. They also are not people who place a lot of value on money so it wasn't like there was much tension there.
07-14-2011 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mjw006
Yet you still haven't made it to Australia you fffffffffffff donk.

Mers, any interest in visiting Australia?
I think the chance of me making it to Australia in the next 5 years is >50%.
07-14-2011 , 05:56 AM
I'm pretty nitty when we talk about BR management and sometimes I feel like I'm burning money by not moving up. From what you've said, you regret because you didn't moved at time to higher games. What BR management should I use to go higher from $55's in optimal time?
07-14-2011 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 0mblad0n
I'm pretty nitty when we talk about BR management and sometimes I feel like I'm burning money by not moving up. From what you've said, you regret because you didn't moved at time to higher games. What BR management should I use to go higher from $55's in optimal time?
Depends on your ROI/risk tolerance/discipline in moving up and down fluidly. 30-40BI is often fine if you're disciplined about it.
07-14-2011 , 06:30 AM
How big of a nit am I?

As a Ducks fan, what are your thoughts on the Willie Lyles/Oregon recruiting scandal? How hard do you think the NCAA will punish the university after everything that has/is going down with USC and Ohio State?

This may be a stretch since aside from the few games we played vs each other, we never really talked (although you did accept my request to add you on skype so we obvi must be super tight homies), but is there anyway that after say, six months at your new job, that you might be able to hook a brotha up with an internship or at least put in a good word? I'm about to start my senior year as a finance major and I haven't done anything outside of taking the required classes.
07-14-2011 , 08:58 AM
blinds 25/50, eff 1085 preflop

Hero: A5s 43.5%
V 3bet shove range: 22+,A2s+,KQs,KTs,K5s,Q6s,A2o+,JTo,T9o 56.5%

its better to mr/call or mr/fold?
07-14-2011 , 09:08 AM
How do you go about putting villain on ranges, especially in uncommon spots? Solely experience?

If someone wants to spend a couple of hours calculating pokerstuff, what would you advise him to calculate first and what would you deem rather useless?
07-14-2011 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by crush
blinds 25/50, eff 1085 preflop

Hero: A5s 43.5%
V 3bet shove range: 22+,A2s+,KQs,KTs,K5s,Q6s,A2o+,JTo,T9o 56.5%

its better to mr/call or mr/fold?
u dont know pot odds?
07-14-2011 , 10:27 AM
when a reg makes a play that makes no sense are you weighting more on his tendancies or his possible range?

for example. reg has been super straight forward. not bluffing in obvious spots. then they checkraise the river in a spot where u are checking back close to every time

are you more likely to call or fold in these spots?
07-14-2011 , 11:48 AM
Do you have a drying order after showering/taking a bath (i.e head is always first, hands are second, etc )?
07-14-2011 , 01:02 PM
Mers thanks for staking me in the 200s before and gl with everything in the future.
07-14-2011 , 01:51 PM
Do you think you would be as well-received here if you were +300k EV, but +40k actual?
07-14-2011 , 02:37 PM
In your opinion, at what point financially does hookers and blow become detrimental to a professional poker players long term success?
07-14-2011 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RotarySB
How big of a nit am I?

As a Ducks fan, what are your thoughts on the Willie Lyles/Oregon recruiting scandal? How hard do you think the NCAA will punish the university after everything that has/is going down with USC and Ohio State?

This may be a stretch since aside from the few games we played vs each other, we never really talked (although you did accept my request to add you on skype so we obvi must be super tight homies), but is there anyway that after say, six months at your new job, that you might be able to hook a brotha up with an internship or at least put in a good word? I'm about to start my senior year as a finance major and I haven't done anything outside of taking the required classes.
You're exceedingly normal in your nittiness

I've honestly took the offseason completely off from following the ducks closely. I was at the Natty, and it was a tough pill to swallow. So goddamn close. I needed some time away so that I could come back to the 2011 season just as excited. So I don't know all of the details of the scandal, but it doesn't sound good.

Way too early to know but they do value employee's opinions on who to hire or not and I can always put in a good word.

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Originally Posted by crush
blinds 25/50, eff 1085 preflop

Hero: A5s 43.5%
V 3bet shove range: 22+,A2s+,KQs,KTs,K5s,Q6s,A2o+,JTo,T9o 56.5%

its better to mr/call or mr/fold?
Multiply your equity times the total pot if you called. That will tell you how many chips you expect to get back over time. Compare that against what you'd have if you folded.

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Originally Posted by Air-Bear
How do you go about putting villain on ranges, especially in uncommon spots? Solely experience?

If someone wants to spend a couple of hours calculating pokerstuff, what would you advise him to calculate first and what would you deem rather useless?
Experience and logic. I know Howard Lederer is a joke and everything, but he's really big on figuring out ranges by "putting together pieces of the puzzle" - preflop ranges, then how that preflop range changes given flop range, then turn range, then finally we should have hands that make sense on the river. So even if I've never seen a wtf overbet on the river, you can go through everything else that happened in the hand and come up with a range that might make sense.

Familiarizing yourself with 3bet shoving math at different stack depths against different opening frequencies is important (NOT JUST COMPARED TO FOLDING), so is going through your results by effective stack size and seeing how you're doing.
07-14-2011 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamas6
when a reg makes a play that makes no sense are you weighting more on his tendancies or his possible range?

for example. reg has been super straight forward. not bluffing in obvious spots. then they checkraise the river in a spot where u are checking back close to every time

are you more likely to call or fold in these spots?
I don't know, honestly I don't really think about it this way. Is the weaker part of the check/raiser's range more air hands, or more weak made hands? Do we represent big hands well? Does he represent any big hands? Even if I'm really not expecting a raise it's still those questions I'm thinking about, and not so much "wtf this play sucks no matter what you have".

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Originally Posted by Cydonia
Do you have a drying order after showering/taking a bath (i.e head is always first, hands are second, etc )?
I'm not sure. If I do, it's unconscious.

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Originally Posted by bighusla
Mers thanks for staking me in the 200s before and gl with everything in the future.
glglgl!

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Originally Posted by sejje
Do you think you would be as well-received here if you were +300k EV, but +40k actual?
It depends. If I were a high stakes baller willing to take on everyone, then yes, I'd be pretty similarly received (there are plenty of examples to point to here). If I posted those results with a low average stake, ran really bad at a lower amount of higher stakes matches (and still bad at lower stakes too), then I don't think people would be that impressed.

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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_
In your opinion, at what point financially does hookers and blow become detrimental to a professional poker players long term success?
Never. I give 10% to charity and 10% to hookers and blow.

Last edited by mersenneary; 07-14-2011 at 07:17 PM.
07-14-2011 , 08:13 PM
Israel or Palestine?
07-14-2011 , 08:17 PM
Hi Mers!

Your awesome endgame videos inspired me to take a deeper plunge into end game math, thus I've calculated -and recalculated a few times- 9 tables to guide my 3 bet shoves. However, the reason I keep recalculating them over and over again is because I can't decide on what calling ranges to use. What would you consider normal calling ranges -for fish that is- at 10,15 and 20bb stacks? How much would you adjust these if a player's nitty/cally in general?

Top 3 HUSNG.com videos not made by you?

If you could go back in time and speak to the you who'd just started playing poker, what piece of advice would you pass on to him? Poker related? Non poker related?

Thanks

Last edited by SieGe; 07-14-2011 at 08:35 PM.
07-14-2011 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Bean
Israel or Palestine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UO6Y...eature=related

In all seriousness, both are ****ing up big time, both need to get their **** together.
07-14-2011 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SieGe
Hi Mers!

Your awesome endgame videos inspired me to take a deeper plunge into end game math, thus I've calculated -and recalculated a few times- 9 tables to guide my 3 bet shoves. However, the reason I keep recalculating them over and over again is because I can't decide on what calling ranges to use. What would you consider normal calling ranges -for fish that is- at 10,15 and 20bb stacks? How much would you adjust these if a player's nitty/cally in general?

Top 3 HUSNG.com videos not made by you?

Thanks
So if we want to be realistic/thorough about it, we should construct calling ranges that expect them to call 20bb deep with A8 85% of the time, QJo 25% of the time, etc, rather than using binary 100 or 0 ranges. But obviously it can get to the point where the time we spend making an accurate calculation is less useful than just making an inaccurate calculation and getting a decent idea of it and moving on with our poker lives.

I do think that you should properly take into account card removal. If you have A5, and your opponent opens 50% of hands and raise/calls 20% of hands, you do NOT get called 40% of the time if you jam over his open with A5. That's an inaccuracy in most people's 3bet shoving spreadsheets.

I've used AA-22,AK-A5,KQ-KT,Ax4x-Ax3x,Kx9x,QxJx-QxTx in the past for a quick and dirty 20bb deep table, which includes a few light hands but nothing crazy.

To be completely honest, I haven't watched many videos myself. skates always has really interesting ones that make you think. I like watching his videos and deciding whether or not I disagree with him, and why. So even when he says things I decide aren't true, I learn a lot from the arguments. ITRIED's reg wars series is good and take a look at some of Hokie's highest rated ones for sure.

      
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