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05-17-2013 , 10:28 AM

LUVtehNL

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,983

Villain wins slighty more than 50% of his matches according to playerscope (which i know is not that accurate but whatever). i had the feeling his betsizing during the match was a bit based on his handstrengh but we only saw a very few showdowns.
he most of the time limps the BU and potbets many pots ip. oop he was very tight - maybe even a bit nitty, even if he didnt like to fold to my flopbets.

Blinds 30/60
Hero (BTN/SB): t1490
BB: t1510

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is BTN/SB with J

Hero raises to t120, BB calls t120

Flop: (t240) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t160, BB calls t160

Turn: (t560) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
are we missing value not betting this turn? I had the intention to call alot of rivers since he bet them alot when turn went c/c.

River: (t560) 6

(2 players)
BB bets t480, Hero folds

as said i wanted to call many rivers but given this card and his sizing i feel i´m never good here. how is my line?

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05-17-2013 , 11:41 AM

KennyJPowers

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,379

what about bet turn small check river?

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05-17-2013 , 11:55 AM

L'avalanche749

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 40

What stake?
Imo this line is not the best vs described villain, I'd prefer to bet turn and decided about 3rd barrel depending on rivercard.
Your line would be optimal if there was no fd and if we knew villain likes to attack river with air. We are far ahead of his range on this turn and this is a better spot to vbet than river. So yes, you missed value here.

As played river is definitely a fold.

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05-24-2013 , 03:52 PM

kakospaidis

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 573

I think that the line you've take is not pretty good.
n this spot i usually bet bet bet overpairs UNTIL i have a reason not to.
So i would bet the flop continue on the turn and readless if i got check-raised i would fold my JJ cause in this spot it's really a guessing game and JJ becomes the bottom of your value range and the best of your bluff cacthers!
So i would bet flop and turn and if i got significant action on the river i would probably fold to any raise.
Also betting on the turn let's you take easier decisions on many rivers and doesn't put you in this awful spot like here!
Hope i helped!!!!

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05-24-2013 , 04:12 PM

LUVtehNL

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,983

thanks guys. It was a 3.50$ game as i´m trying to get back into HUsngs. What do you guys think about the difference between 3.50s, 7s and 15s? I see alot of you guys grinding the hypers, so isn´t there less regs at the turbo speed games now? Atleast every 2nd Villain i play is pretty bad so far. how will this change between those 3 stakes i mentioned?

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05-25-2013 , 05:36 AM

kakospaidis

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 573

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Originally Posted by LUVtehNL

Basically you are right....iv'e plays some $60 turbos and the level waasn't as high as expected.The guys where playing pretty nitty and making some small but unforgiving mistakes in HU.
IMO i like turbos more,you play more poker than shove/fold and you can mak a transition to HU cash.IMO $7 are somewhat lower level thinkers than the $15 but i would say that they are at the same level.There are minor differences like on the $15 they are opening close to 90%-100% of their BTN which is pretty tilting and the adjust tto your 3-betting strategies but there are many spots to exploit them post flop it think!

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