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Old 06-15-2021, 08:07 PM   #1
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TPGK against shove

PokerStars - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 826
SB: 674

SB posts SB 20, Hero posts BB 40

Pre Flop: (pot: 60) Hero has Q T

SB calls 20, Hero checks

Flop: (80, 2 players) Q 3 8
Hero checks, SB bets 40, Hero raises to 160, SB raises to 634 and is all-in, Hero ?

Oppo is a reg.
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Old 06-15-2021, 09:37 PM   #2
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Re: TPGK against shove

Yea you can not x/r to 4bb and fold top pair decent kicker at 16bbs deep, haha. I would just x/r to 3bb as well.
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Old 06-16-2021, 11:03 AM   #3
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Re: TPGK against shove

yeah I would never fold, but this is a 50% call/shove according to the solver
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Old 06-16-2021, 01:17 PM   #4
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Re: TPGK against shove

I think that you mean when villain jams, your hand is 50% call/50% fold. GTO has almost no jam range over such a large x/r sizing. GTO isn't jamming any value combinations that we beat, so this is just a bluffcatcher at that point. In reality, I think very many players (regs included) will jam at least a few worse top pairs for protection (also some flush draws). I mean this is an indifferent call in GTO, so if population is biased to jam more hands we are ahead of I think it becomes an easy call.

More importantly, I suspect you are using a size here you would never choose to bluff with.

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Old 06-16-2021, 05:25 PM   #5
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I think that you mean when villain jams, your hand is 50% call/50% fold. GTO has almost no jam range over such a large x/r sizing. GTO isn't jamming any value combinations that we beat, so this is just a bluffcatcher at that point. In reality, I think very many players (regs included) will jam at least a few worse top pairs for protection (also some flush draws). I mean this is an indifferent call in GTO, so if population is biased to jam more hands we are ahead of I think it becomes an easy call.

More importantly, I suspect you are using a size here you would never choose to bluff with.
right, it was an exploitative size against a fish
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Old 06-16-2021, 06:09 PM   #6
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Re: TPGK against shove

you said it was a reg in OP
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:49 PM   #7
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a regular fish maybe
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:43 AM   #8
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:04 AM   #9
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