***DISCLAMER - THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY***
***If you are HokieGreg or Gkeuler you can just ignore this post as obviously you won't learn anything useful.***

This advice won't be perfect and in fact some might just be downright horrible. I encourage any counter points, critique, and disucssions if they are going to be in a civil manner. All you haters can go $#!+ a brick and go back to charging $300 for advice.

This thread is the 2nd half of a hand history review that I am doing for scizorshock. The first half can be found at:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...rt-1-a-858230/

I like a call of a minraise PF with K6s. He CBs big on a board that hits our PF oop calling range pretty well. Villain also has been limping and folding buttons some and not stabbing or CBing big all that often thus I'd think a strong range on average in this spot for him. We have bottom pair so a fold seems prudent.

We are at 25bb effective stacks. I think this is Villain's first shove on us and it's fairly big. I really doubt he'd do this with a big pair. Also, Villain has had no problems 3 betting us small in the past as he had done a few times so it's not like he is in standard shove mode yet. Likely hands could be small pairs or Ax type hands (many worse than ours). I think A8o is strong enough to call with. I'd love to here Mers's advice on this as he plays a bunch of super turbos.

Standard.

It's not a bad idea to see if he'll let us limp but I'd still come in with a minraise here rather than invite him to limp punish us with a hand that can't call a raise.

PF is fine. I'd usually lead this flop with a good middle pair. If he raises me and he isn't playing aggmonkey then I'd fold. Given that you checked and he bet big, it's a dicey spot. We are too deep for me to want to stack off middle pair and a lot of overs/flush cards can come and since he does follow up with a 2nd barrel fairly often.

You are probably feeling run over a little bit now so folding some crap hands is good.

Could go either way facing a minraise with a crap Ax hand unless we are short enough to shove which we aren't. Facing a 3x it would have been an easy fold.

Standard.

Looks fine. Villain seems to have changed attitude since the first half of the match or he is just hitting a lot!

You can't fold every button now.

Fine.

Good.

Yay.

Open this.

Ok.

You have now folded 5 out of 6 buttons! He has seen us fold enough that he will usually give us plenty of credit on the strength of our range now even if we do have a **** hand.

Looks fine. ROFL, boat FTW! Note he did limp 94o, not a bad idea to raise some of his limps. Also since he did check back trips he might not actually have trips if he actually bets a paired board on the flop next time (drawiness of board taken into account of course).

6 folds out of 7 button... are you going for a record?

I could go either way on this one PF. He seems to be pressuring us a lot now postflop when we are oop. Flop is fine obv.

Holy crap, did you disconnect lol... hmm, you did play the last hand so it can't be that

Standard.

PF raise, finally. I bet the flop though as you can't call a turn bet really as you found out. You have been folding a lot so he should give you plenty of credit on your bet and not CR much making it a fold if he would.

Standard.

Ok, he 3 bets us small again and we are at 25bb. Obviously a fold but that makes the A8o hand look more enticing earlier when he shoved.

Fine.

Good.

Great.

Fine.

Jesus. How do you get in these spots lol. I was going to say jam over his 2 or 3x raise sizes he is mixing around. Why the hell would be 6x it? It seems he really wants to you jam or fold. Since you are playing so tight I really doubt he does this with any bigger ace or med-big pairs. That leaves possibly small pairs or worse Ax hands. Mers, help us out here, please!

Obv playing scared now. We really aren't even opening enough buttons to know if he is 3 betting us often or not.

Fine.

Wow.

Fighting back some is good. Not a hand I'd usually do this with. He should give us a lot of credit though.

God damn. Now he is donking huge into us. The board is so dry he should expect you to bet it to CR with a strong hand like tp. You don't have anything and he could be bet calling it off with even a K or 3 or flush draw so live to fight another day.

Fine.

Ok.

Nice, a freebie... wonder why he didn't bet anywhere. And I wonder why you didn't stab anywhere either.

Fine.

Fine.

Great. Very funny that he minrr's us at 15bb and folds to a shove. That is pretty horrid.

Shove this PF. Under 20bb this is easily +EV while oop it might not be given how much he is running us over. I just looked back at this hand again. What do you think about a check-shove here? He is really putting out a lot of chips often so his range can't be all strong. Also since he limps some these low crap cards can be discounted a little from his range. You do have a fair amount of outs if called (gutter, maybe 2 overs).

Fine.

Fine.

God I wish I could see wtf he is doing all this aggressive **** with.

Fine.

Easy shove and of course he wakes up with a better ace lol... at least we suck out and chop.

Fine.

Fine.

Fine.

Given this guy loves to do silly small raises and attack us, I don't like this limp/call PF.

At least you had 1 out when you got it in lol... this guy seems to have run mostly like god and really messed with us a bunch. Huge donk bets, small reraises, big CBs, attacking limps... It is very hard to adjust to all these in combination.

Our opponent seemed to really have pulled a Jeckyl and Hyde on us. He didn't seem all that aggressive earlier in the game but this last half certainly was tough. I wouldn't go for a rematch lol!

I look forward to any good comments/questions/concerns. I hope you had a fun read and learned something.

hand 91 is brutal bad pre given what I've seen. Talk about what you've seen from his opening range, his different sizings, etc, A6o's equity when calling the flop, and A6o's likely equity when folding. That may help you find some broader leaks. But definitely a shove, and a great hand to look at and talk about to think about your BB leaks.

I probably jam the A8 since you called the mersphone on it, but it's definitely quite close and weird.

skimming per usual

I love it... the mersphone... though does the mersephone or mersaphone or mersophone sound better?

Hand number 78 is the A8 hand he is referring to. If villain had been using huge PF raises sizes more often, I'd snap jam but as looking at the rest of the HH he only used them a couple times so I wasn't sure what to do. Many villains telegraph their range strength with different raise sizes.

i learned that you dont know how to count outs :P

straight flush is the only way to suck out like a boss.

Damn it, yah I'm ******ed lol... obviously you can hit a higher flush with the 9, but you wanna do it in style!

great thread really quality advice i approve would read again sticky plz

I can't tell if this is a joke or a level or if I turned the hater.

lol ^ ...but really I like these hh reviews, it sparks solid discussion when ur wrong

LMAO at the disclaimer!