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Old 03-18-2015, 02:51 PM   #1
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t4o $15-turbo

Linecheck.
Maybe better checkback the river?

    Poker Stars, $14.39 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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    Hero (BB): 1,490 (49.7 bb)
    SB: 1,510 (50.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 T
    SB raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, SB calls 120

    Flop: (360) 9 J Q (2 players)
    Hero bets 180, SB calls 180

    Turn: (720) 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 150, Hero calls 150

    River: (1,020) K (2 players)
    Hero bets 980 and is all-in, SB folds




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    Old 03-18-2015, 05:48 PM   #2
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    Re: t4o $15-turbo

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davido-tortelloni View Post
    Linecheck.
    Maybe better checkback the river?

      Poker Stars, $14.39 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35521861

      Hero (BB): 1,490 (49.7 bb)
      SB: 1,510 (50.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 T
      SB raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, SB calls 120

      Flop: (360) 9 J Q (2 players)
      Hero bets 180, SB calls 180

      Turn: (720) 2 (2 players)
      Hero checks, SB bets 150, Hero calls 150

      River: (1,020) K (2 players)
      Hero bets 980 and is all-in, SB folds




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      Old 03-18-2015, 05:51 PM   #3
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

      think it depends on the opponent and his tenancies
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      Old 03-18-2015, 06:35 PM   #4
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

      streets 0, 1, 3 butchered

      street 2 ok in vacuum

      edit: was just in a rush didn't mean to sound dickish

      street 0: just too deep to justify much 3b-light w/ this particular hand. would rather 3b smthn like 54s if we believe 3bing wide is prof. against this villain

      street 1: this board couldn't hit his flatting range harder. can't think of anything he'd be folding here barring low suited connectors and low pocket pairs

      street 2: yea sure

      street 3: you're never going to get much value here but you're ensuring you won't with the pot donk

      sry if i'm not being super clear i'm exhausted
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      Old 03-20-2015, 05:37 PM   #5
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

      Quote:
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      streets 0, 1, 3 butchered

      street 2 ok in vacuum

      edit: was just in a rush didn't mean to sound dickish

      street 0: just too deep to justify much 3b-light w/ this particular hand. would rather 3b smthn like 54s if we believe 3bing wide is prof. against this villain

      street 1: this board couldn't hit his flatting range harder. can't think of anything he'd be folding here barring low suited connectors and low pocket pairs

      street 2: yea sure

      street 3: you're never going to get much value here but you're ensuring you won't with the pot donk

      sry if i'm not being super clear i'm exhausted

      I agree with all of this, just to clarify check/call flop?
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      Old 03-20-2015, 10:30 PM   #6
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

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      I agree with all of this, just to clarify check/call flop?
      yes imo
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      Old 03-21-2015, 06:02 AM   #7
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

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      street 1: this board couldn't hit his flatting range harder. can't think of anything he'd be folding here barring low suited connectors and low pocket pairs
      This has some truth in it, but in general, not having enough FE on flop != we shouldn't bet flop with draws/bluff.
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      Old 03-21-2015, 01:58 PM   #8
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

      yeah, one shouldn't make that extrapolation at all based on this hand. But I think on this particular flop, he will be flatting us far too much and, importantly, our straight outs are very overt cards in that when they hit, we will often be unable to obtain much value.
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      Old 03-21-2015, 05:12 PM   #9
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

      dont donk the river imo , its too hard to get a call in this board.
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      Old 03-23-2015, 06:35 PM   #10
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      Re: t4o $15-turbo

      I'd think donk smaller is fine, ppl can do dumb things and it's more likely we'll bet paid small by betting than inducing thin vbets OTR, he never has air you'd think given his turn play + ranges in general
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