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03-18-2015 , 02:51 PM

davido-tortelloni

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 180

Linecheck.
Maybe better checkback the river?

Poker Stars, $14.39 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35521861

Hero (BB): 1,490 (49.7 bb)
SB: 1,510 (50.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

SB raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, SB calls 120

Flop: (360) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets 180, SB calls 180

Turn: (720) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets 150, Hero calls 150

River: (1,020) K

(2 players)
Hero bets 980 and is all-in, SB folds

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03-18-2015 , 05:48 PM

TootSweets

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 58

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Originally Posted by davido-tortelloni

Linecheck.
Maybe better checkback the river?

SB raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, SB calls 120

Flop: (360) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets 180, SB calls 180

Turn: (720) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets 150, Hero calls 150

River: (1,020) K

(2 players)
Hero bets 980 and is all-in, SB folds

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Reasons for 3betting with T4o?

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03-18-2015 , 05:51 PM

khrage

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 370

think it depends on the opponent and his tenancies

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03-18-2015 , 06:35 PM

angel zera

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 857

streets 0, 1, 3 butchered

street 2 ok in vacuum

edit: was just in a rush didn't mean to sound dickish

street 0: just too deep to justify much 3b-light w/ this particular hand. would rather 3b smthn like 54s if we believe 3bing wide is prof. against this villain

street 1: this board couldn't hit his flatting range harder. can't think of anything he'd be folding here barring low suited connectors and low pocket pairs

street 2: yea sure

street 3: you're never going to get much value here but you're ensuring you won't with the pot donk

sry if i'm not being super clear i'm exhausted

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03-20-2015 , 05:37 PM

HipAintCheap

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 657

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Originally Posted by angel zera

I agree with all of this, just to clarify check/call flop?

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03-20-2015 , 10:30 PM

angel zera

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 857

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Originally Posted by HipAintCheap

I agree with all of this, just to clarify check/call flop?

yes imo

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03-21-2015 , 06:02 AM

mela

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,228

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Originally Posted by angel zera

street 1: this board couldn't hit his flatting range harder. can't think of anything he'd be folding here barring low suited connectors and low pocket pairs

This has some truth in it, but in general, not having enough FE on flop != we shouldn't bet flop with draws/bluff.

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03-21-2015 , 01:58 PM

angel zera

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 857

yeah, one shouldn't make that extrapolation at all based on this hand. But I think on this particular flop, he will be flatting us far too much and, importantly, our straight outs are very overt cards in that when they hit, we will often be unable to obtain much value.

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03-21-2015 , 05:12 PM

Summoner500

adept

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 968

dont donk the river imo , its too hard to get a call in this board.

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03-23-2015 , 06:35 PM

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Danshiel350

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,686

I'd think donk smaller is fine, ppl can do dumb things and it's more likely we'll bet paid small by betting than inducing thin vbets OTR, he never has air you'd think given his turn play + ranges in general

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