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07-01-2021 , 02:15 PM

pensodasolo

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 489

PokerStars, €23.25 + €1.75 - Hold'em No Limit - 10/20 - 3 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

BU (Hero): 580 (29 bb)
SB: 430 (22 bb)
BB: 490 (25 bb)

Pre-Flop: (30) Hero is BTN with T♠ Q♦
Hero raises to 40, 1 fold, BB calls 20

Flop: (90) 9♣ 4♠ T♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 68, BB calls 68

Turn: (226) Q♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 170, BB raises to 382 (all-in), Hero ?

Oppo is unkown
Beside the turn call that Is a 100 % GTO call, my main concern is the turn bet size. How much would you bet and if you use a smaller size, would you call a shove as well?

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07-01-2021 , 03:03 PM

Vvvvv

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 544

I'd cbet smaller on the flop and then I'd bet small ott again.

Maybe I am a nit, but I am folding to a shove here. But it's a spin. Do you think, that people are capable of x/s ott light? I am curious, as population tendencies might be different.

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07-01-2021 , 03:30 PM

pensodasolo

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My size is def bad, very bad. I agree.

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07-01-2021 , 04:22 PM

Vvvvv

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Did you check what sizing solver prefers otf and ott? I am curious.

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07-01-2021 , 04:44 PM

pensodasolo

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 489

either 1/3 or half

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07-01-2021 , 06:25 PM

none888

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,665

Id check turn, getting check raised really sucks and not like your hand is very strong on this board.
But as played I feel like we have to call top two pairs, because of sizings you chose, Imo a lot of people will feel like they are in a shove/fold spot and because of this I expect quite a lot of hands we are ahead of.

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