The Superturbos (aka "sejjeturbos") Discussion Thread - Page 11 - Heads Up SNG and Spin and Gos -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

lol.

Well yah i understand i posted some genral things but i was wondering if there are any good strat threads from good regs who posted a strategy post or something.

And wtf 1k games in one session of hu? Wtf. So yeah I guess i should be playing with 100 buyins meaning I cant touch these until 500.

Also at jedi training.. where do i sign up for this?

ty sol reader for posting

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02-08-2011 , 01:29 AM

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howdoidothings?

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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_

100+ buyins

motivated because my parents don't love me enough (i'll show them)

also, this makes me motivated for some reason even though my parents love me more than black ppl love chicken. Respect.

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02-08-2011 , 01:29 AM

#253

Joe Pulaski

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i hate these things more than words can describe, anytime i play them i lose at least 1000. my stats are 425 games, -11k

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02-08-2011 , 03:33 AM

#254

cake123

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Id also like to know if there was, or anyone can write, any strategy posts about them now as they are 500.

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02-08-2011 , 06:32 AM

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JohnnyDrama030

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Wish i didnt find this thread! Is killing my confidence.

Well, we will see when ive put in 10k games if i dont bust before. Will post graph then..

I was 4-tabling them for a while and variance was sick. 30 BI downswing in one hour and stuff like that.

Since 1-tabling its going great. I think multitabling really kills the edge in those.

Its a lot about gameflow, timingtells and kind of "instincts".

And even 1-tabling you can put in ~ 20games/hour.

Man i hope im not just on a heater!

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02-08-2011 , 07:06 AM

#256

genher

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama030

I agree with you. the edge is small in these and I think you need to be fully focused (spotting timing tells etc...) and therefore one tabling (at least most people should anyways).

@howdoidothings? As I already said above use half a kelly and move up and down it's a more efficient use of your BR.

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02-08-2011 , 10:59 AM

#257

harminoff

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So how about getting some super turbo humtt's going?

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02-08-2011 , 03:17 PM

#258

NoMeansYes_

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Originally Posted by harminoff

So how about getting some super turbo humtt's going?

Don't be ridiculous guy

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02-08-2011 , 06:28 PM

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mersenneary

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Originally Posted by NoMeansYes_

jam pairs, jam aces, jam sandwiches, run good

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Originally Posted by harminoff

So how about getting some super turbo humtt's going?

Yeah, this is a good idea.

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Originally Posted by filthyvermin

my lifetime avg stake is about $90 a game. a few weeks ago, i lost 11k in one day playing them. they are a dangerous dangerous game.

YOU TELL EM FILTHY

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama030

Well, we will see when ive put in 10k games if i dont bust before.

This is probably the best thing I've written in this thread:

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Originally Posted by mersenneary

Definitely be skeptical of your results in these, I highly recommend using EV software because this is not the game to be playing too long when you think you're a winner but you're not. And that's going to happen to a ton of people.

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02-08-2011 , 06:30 PM

#260

HEADxACHE

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are these more swingy than the 1500 chip ultras on cereus?

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02-08-2011 , 06:36 PM

#261

mersenneary

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Originally Posted by pokerfun666

supe rturbos onf ftp suck , they are not beateable , they wille at your bankroll and they r high variance (they will also eat your brains). Stop thinking about them as poker , it is not skill that wins those it is luck.

U CANNOT WIN THEM , stop thinking about them , play roulette cuz u pay less rake there.

btw, long overdue title change in honor of the man who got FTP to introduce this structure.

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02-09-2011 , 05:10 AM

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Cog Dissonance

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btw, long overdue title change in honor of the man who got FTP to introduce this structure.

Didn't know that was Sejje. You and I owe him a debt of gratitude Mers. Now we need to get a similar structure/rake setup on Stars and it'll be 2003 all over again.

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02-09-2011 , 08:43 PM

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JohnnyDrama030

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Hey maybe someone with math skills can help me out here.

Lets say someones ev is breakeven in the super turbos. So playing is like a flip of a coin.

If you flip a coin 5000 times you would expect ~ 2500 times head 2500 times tail.

How big could be the variations?

For example how high is the chance of a ~500 difference (2250 - 2750).

I dont mean exactly numbers. Just in general a huge difference over this sample.

How often would this happen?

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02-09-2011 , 08:50 PM

#264

mersenneary

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama030

Play around with this:

http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~west/apple...omialdemo.html

Surprising to most people, a result of 2750-2250, or more extreme, happens close to never.

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02-09-2011 , 08:52 PM

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JohnnyDrama030

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That looks interesting. ty

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02-10-2011 , 12:02 AM

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bighusla

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Originally Posted by cake123

Id also like to know if there was, or anyone can write, any strategy posts about them now as they are 500.

Can everyone please refrain from coaching / posting strat cheat sheets on this game. The edges are already razor thin and the lobbies are already clogged enough with regs as is. There is at least 5-10 regs waiting in line at the $100 lvl at any given time. Coaching will kill this game.

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02-10-2011 , 12:38 AM

#267

Sol Reader

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oooooh boy.

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02-10-2011 , 12:43 AM

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NoMeansYes_

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no money HU, everyones super solid

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02-10-2011 , 04:41 AM

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chugenemes

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bit off topic but not threadworthy so i'll ask here,

have any of the husng regs had good success at the stars 20bb cap games?

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02-10-2011 , 01:07 PM

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Xereles

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I tried them out. Very soft 2-3handed, I've never played 6max+ much so I found that a bit hard.

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02-10-2011 , 05:21 PM

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genher

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Originally Posted by mersenneary

Surprising to most people, a result of 2750-2250, or more extreme, happens close to never.

so may be people with resut well under their corrected EV line for a long time are just not playing well!?

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02-15-2011 , 04:44 PM

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Maso777

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The only HU sngs I enjoy playing are superturbos. I've had a membership at DC in the past and they didn't offer a single video for the hu superturbos.

I found 3 hu superturbo videos on husng.com, not sure if they have more then 3 or not, as it is difficult to sort through their videos.

Anyway what site do you recommend?
My skill level right now is that of a beginner, I've played a little over 500 of them with a 52.8% ITM, so I'm just barely beating the rake and looking to improve.

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02-15-2011 , 04:52 PM

#273

Newff

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Originally Posted by Maso777

The only HU sngs I enjoy playing are superturbos. I've had a membership at DC in the past and they didn't offer a single video for the hu superturbos.

I found 3 hu superturbo videos on husng.com, not sure if they have more then 3 or not, as it is difficult to sort through their videos.

Anyway site what do you recommend?
My skill level right now is that of a beginner, I've played a little over 500 of them with a 52.8% ITM, so I'm just barely beating the rake and looking to improve.

I'm 99.9% sure HUSNG.com is the only site with Super Turbo videos and they have a lot. Just search for Mersenneary and Cog Dissonance videos and you'll find them. If you have any more questions about HUSNG.com videos specifically there is a sticky up top of this forum where most questions can be answered.

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02-15-2011 , 05:08 PM

#274

ThebrokenATM

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Also, superturbos are essentially end game content so any video on HUSNG that focus' on endgame is relevant like mers' video 6 and 8 for example. For sorting through videos on HUSNG I find using the master video list then picking one coach is a good method.