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 12-19-2017, 06:30 AM #1 Pad newbie   Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 18 Studying Spin and Gos Jackpot structures Hi, I'm a french spin and go grinder. I don't know if it's the same elsewhere but french rooms have very different jackpot structures. For example, Winamax and Pokerstars.fr have opposite structures. - Pokerstars.fr have very low big jackpot probabilities and low 2x probability - Winamax is the exact opposite I've been playing with swongsim to understand how this affect your grind and i came with an idea to visualize differently how different these structures are. I made some simulations (1000 players play 50.000 games) and tried to visualize the rake distribution across time. How many players paid more than 10% rake ? less than 6% ? Here are my results, i thought maybe some of you would be interested. Cheers, Pad Last edited by Pad; 12-19-2017 at 06:47 AM.
 12-19-2017, 08:00 AM #2 8gameisfun centurion   Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 167 Re: Studying Spin and Gos Jackpot structures Very interesting. So if I undestand this correctly, on Winamax there are few players who pay <0% rake pretty much consistently while everyone else pays quite a bit more on average and the spread is much higher. Whereas on Pokerstars.fr everyone bar very, very few pay slightly higher than is expected. Correct? Seems like Winamax is quite bit more swingy then. I bet Party's variance would be off the scale in this model.
 12-19-2017, 08:40 AM #3 Pad newbie   Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 18 Re: Studying Spin and Gos Jackpot structures Yes pretty much, but it's hard to describe it in a few words as distributions are complex and change across time. Here is an example after 10.000 games : Most of the ps player are between 6 and 8% rake whereas on Winamax most of them paid 8 to 10% rake. However on Winamax big jackpot winners are way more numerous. I think this type of visualisation helps a lot to understand the distribution : (in the gif image posted earlier, there is a "zoom" in order to have a fixed scale) Last edited by Pad; 12-19-2017 at 08:59 AM.
 12-19-2017, 08:44 AM #4 Pad newbie   Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 18 Re: Studying Spin and Gos Jackpot structures NB : here is the structure on Pokerstars.fr : Might be different than Pokerstars.com structure. Last edited by Pad; 12-19-2017 at 08:58 AM.
 12-19-2017, 09:15 AM #5 Max Cut Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 9,553 Re: Studying Spin and Gos Jackpot structures Nifty! Well done, the animations are amazing.

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