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Straight on the river on paired and flushy board.

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06-16-2021 , 09:50 PM

pensodasolo

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 489

PokerStars, €23.25 + €1.75 - Hold'em No Limit - 20/40 - 2 players
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SB (Hero): 600 (15 bb)
BB: 900 (23 bb)

Pre-Flop: (60) Hero is SB with 8♣ 2♣
Hero calls 20, BB checks

Flop: (80) 9♠ 6♦ T♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 40, BB raises to 100, Hero calls 60

Turn: (280) T♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (280) 7♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ? (all-in), [color=#666666][i]

Size?

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06-17-2021 , 12:41 AM

HokieGreg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,726

I would fold to flop x/r. Vast majority of players range here is much stronger than GTO (plus higher turn aggression). I've only solved for a 2.25x or 3x x/r on this board atm, and this combo is barely a call vs 2.25x and mostly a fold vs 3x.

I would just check river. There's so few hands you can realistically get value from with a bet here, and you can run into a lot of traps. GTO checks back river with similar straight combos here as well fwiw.

This is a tricky hand.

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06-17-2021 , 04:20 AM

pensodasolo

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 489

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Originally Posted by HokieGreg

I had checked it on the solver, i wanted to see whether the regs recognized it . How can it be a 60% GTO check back? we could get value from all the Ts

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06-17-2021 , 05:52 AM

Vvvvv

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 544

In general, I prefer check back otf and I'd fire a dcb on a lot of turns.

But here, you have GS and some backdoors, so cbet could be fine, as you would be forced to fold on a lot of turns, if you check it back and villain decides to probe the turn.

Also, thing is, that people construct their turn probing ranges in a weird way. I often see weak pairs, that they decide to probe with and then check the river.

I just want to say, that we should cbet aggresively in limped pots (on most textures) for a couple of reasons:

1) people don't defend enough vs flop cbet
2) people don't x/r wide enough
3) they can't stand multiple street aggression with their weak hands

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06-17-2021 , 09:03 AM

HokieGreg

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,726

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Originally Posted by pensodasolo

I had checked it on the solver, i wanted to see whether the regs recognized it . How can it be a 60% GTO check back? we could get value from all the Ts

You beat very few TX combos that get to the river with this line.

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06-17-2021 , 02:05 PM

pensodasolo

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 489

yeah, I looked again this hand. He would iso KT, AT. By betting river we extract valuefrom just JT and maybe QT ( if he doesn't iso it pre).
We lose against a bunch of hands. This is a hand you can't play with the autopilot.

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