PokerStars Hand #219528782047: Tournament #3029970553, €9.20+€0.80 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) [AAMS ID: M4F45115E7FB81YC] - 2020/10/19 11:55:59 CET [2020/10/19 5:55:59 ET]
Table '3029970553 1' 3-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: giaky8991 (840 in chips)
Seat 2: pensodasolo (660 in chips)
giaky8991: posts small blind 15
pensodasolo: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pensodasolo [2h 3h]
giaky8991: raises 30 to 60
pensodasolo: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [Qc 6h 5c]
pensodasolo: checks
giaky8991: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 6h 5c] [Jd]
pensodasolo: bets 80
giaky8991: calls 80
*** RIVER *** [Qc 6h 5c Jd] [4c]
pensodasolo: bets 200
giaky8991: raises 230 to 430
Pensodasolo ?

snapcall. never folding.

I think that we're good less than 20% of time, the miniraise is a uber strong move here. We block one straight (3-7) but have no clubs.

Yea I'm just not folding. I think you see enough two pairs and random stuff that don't make sense to call. Certainly vs some part of the player pool you lose or chop basically 100% of the time, but I think there's enough of the player pool that overvalues stuff and you will definitely see bluffs a non-zero % of the time (although quite minimal).

Also, guys don't check back flop with flush draws very often. He can definitely have like QQ 66 55 Q6 Q5 here. Can definitely see some guys checking those back and still raising river tiny. Enough for 20% call, I think. Could be wrong. I haven't played very low stakes in a long time, but I suspect you just see enough guys that really don't understand poker at all and just do dumb stuff here.

I'm folding, they rarely raise the river and when they do they have a full flush almost every single f*cking time. (also here they can have the top straight).

so you guys are saying that average player is not cbetting flush draws with a significant frequency, right?

I would bet bigger on the river.
As played Id call because your bet is not big and with no reads imo they will have enough 2 pairs and rarely something weird, but def not happy about raise on this particular river, not because SB can have flush, but because usually fish are playing cautiously when flush hits.

Yea, I agree betting river bigger is better.

you got just too good hand to fold