I'm playing 23BB-effective stacks deep against a decent opponent. Not a complete fish, but neither a crusher. The hand went like:

SB calls 1BB
BB (Hero) checks with QTo

Flop (2BB): A24r. Hero checks. Villain bets 1BB. Hero calls.
Turn (4BB): A. Hero checks. Villain bets 2BB. Hero calls.
River (8BB): A. Hero checks. Villain bets 4BB. Hero calls.

I cannot think of very few hands that would play like this and beat me (53 and some fours), but Villain could be bluffing with almost anything here. What do you think of the hand?

I don't think i usually call that flop, unless oppo always ISO Ax hands.
As played i would call river

I can think of ALOT of hands that can play like this and have you crushed he literally has all overpairs, all Ax, alot of 4x, while i can only think of a few bluffs that we beat, i also dont think the population are likely to be overbluffing on a board like this.

Thank you for your reply, but it sounds weird to me that a pocket pair is likely to limp preflop and then bet half pot in all three streets. Sure he can have some of that, but I should not put all 54 combos of 55-KK on his range!

[QUOTE=pensodasolo;55439832]I don't think i usually call that flop, unless oppo always ISO Ax hands.

You do have a point, but won't I be easy to exploit if I fold my Qx? What hands should be my calling range?

flop call seems a little optimistic given how many gutshots we also have, but i'd always defend it on something like A62

as played i think you need to fold turn and river

this line is definitely not standard

seems totally standard for all those hands to play that way imo, you dont think its weirder for somebody to limp lots of trash and triple this board?

If anything I might expect some pairs to go bigger on the turn but yeah I don't see how "nobody ever has pocket pairs here." Why would you think that?

And on this runout a lot of people will triple every single 4 they have and every single pocket pair. Call flop fold turn seems totally fine here.

Wouldn't most of those pocket pairs have raised pf?

They're mixed in gto so how can you completely exclude them from a decent opponents range?

Opponent could have any 4x, some 2x & any overpair, as for bluffs, if he's remotely aware of how the game works, he shouldn't have many in this line

also if you're calling QT on the river, that means opponent probably should never bluff as with a hand like 89, he has showdownvalue vs some of your missed gs's (65 eg)

raise pre because **** him

I almost spat my coffee on a screen. mersenneary commenting on a hand history in 2019 and is still correct as always? legendado

Wow! Just realized the author of the first poker e-book I read has answered to my post. I owe you, sir!

PF you can definitely raise here at this stack depth. QT+ plays well post-flop even OOP. The worry is if you're facing someone that limp/jams all their AX in which case not seeing a flop with this hand really sucks.

As played, I think that line with that type of sizing on each street is more likely to be for value than a bluff. What do they really expect you to fold for 1/2 pot on this board after calling 2 streets. 4X is pretty much an auto-call and it would be very difficult folding out 2X for such a small bet as well. The A on the turn is also a bad card to keep bluffing with as well. On the river, the hands they want you to have that can fold like random 3X and 5X are probably going to be hands they have a good chance of beating anyways.

The flop call is a bit ambitious considering there are really no good turn cards for us. What's the plan on the turn? Are we turning our Q hi into a bluff if a 3 or 5 hits? There's no reason why they can't have 3's and 5's considering they're limping most of their PF range as well in position. Even if we spike a Q or T, we aren't really too happy about calling bigger turn and river bets. Better players are also going to be be applying a lot of pressure because they have far more AX than you do and you're going to be just guessing whether it's good because they're also playing their AX the same way.