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08-05-2012 , 07:29 AM
I would like to hear your opinion on how you would play in these 3B potts. I find myself being dominated all the time so I wonder if its variance or just pure bad play? Is their 3B range that tight?

Do you raise here for value/protection or just call? Its weird that he didnt CB flop.

    Poker Stars, $29.37 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13668552

    BB: 540 (27 bb)
    Hero (SB): 460 (23 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 T
    Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 60, Hero calls 20

    Flop: (120) Q T 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (120) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets 80



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    What air is he CR here? can we fold TP here? If we flat do you fold to a turn barell?
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      BB: 380 (19 bb)
      Hero (SB): 620 (31 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 A
      Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 80, Hero calls 40

      Flop: (160) A Q 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets 80, BB raises to 160



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      Is he really barelling air here? He can have better Qx.
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        BB: 520 (26 bb)
        Hero (SB): 480 (24 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with Q T
        Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 80, Hero calls 40

        Flop: (160) A Q 5 (2 players)
        BB bets 100, Hero calls 100

        Turn: (360) A (2 players)
        BB bets 199




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        Again, how marginal is this? Is he really barelling that turn with air? He can have so many better Jx or QQ+.
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          BB: 465 (23.3 bb)
          Hero (SB): 535 (26.8 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with T J
          Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 100, Hero calls 60

          Flop: (200) 2 J 6 (2 players)
          BB bets 80, Hero calls 80

          Turn: (360) 7 (2 players)
          BB bets 285 and is all-in



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          Give up on turn or what?
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            Hero (SB): 530 (26.5 bb)
            BB: 470 (23.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 Q
            Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 60, Hero calls 20

            Flop: (120) 3 Q 4 (2 players)
            BB bets 80, Hero calls 80

            Turn: (280) A (2 players)
            BB bets 100



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            Now this is a loose call by me, but as played, what do you do on flop? if we flat what do we do if turn is a brick and he barells?
              Poker Stars, $58.74 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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              BB: 530 (26.5 bb)
              Hero (SB): 470 (23.5 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 K
              Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 90, Hero calls 50

              Flop: (180) 8 K 2 (2 players)
              BB bets 80



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              ST :: 3B potts vs aggression Quote
              08-05-2012 , 08:04 AM
              1. I think call. Villain shout have cbet a Q on that flop imo. I see people show up with all sorts of weird stuff when they min 3bet so I'm not too worried here (micro player though ). That bet is probably because you checked flop though so they'd bet almost 100% ott.
              2. I'm folding that hand pre unless you have some sort of aggro 3bet dynamic. Again 3.50 player so not much of that going on down here. Min CR is usually nuttish imo so fold flop I think.
              3. idk??? Nothing has changed with that 2nd ace, you're wither way ahead or way behind. Vs aggro call, readless fold?
              4. I don't think I can fold. Maybe raise flop but if villain is aggro you're likely better off calling with the intention of calling down almost any board.
              5. I think fold. I notice this is a $15 so more likely villain is fish and you're beat.
              6. Definite loose call. I think you can call down here, but again I'm fishy. I guess you could check-raise/jam?
              ST :: 3B potts vs aggression Quote
              08-05-2012 , 09:35 AM
              1st
              Im betting flop for value when he checks.
              As played calling turn.

              2nd
              Im folding pre, is it a call?
              As played you have Tp but people just dont bluff in such spot, so I fold.

              3rd
              Idk about flop but Im jamming that turn.

              4th
              not folding

              5th
              Calling down this.

              6th
              And calling down this also.


              Would like to hear other thoughts.
              ST :: 3B potts vs aggression Quote
              08-05-2012 , 02:02 PM
              2nd hand
              why do you calling a 3bet with A4o if you dont want to gii when you hit TP esp. on this drawy board? no offense but i think the real question is pre rather than post-flop.
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              08-06-2012 , 08:28 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by frasier0
              2nd hand
              why do you calling a 3bet with A4o if you dont want to gii when you hit TP esp. on this drawy board? no offense but i think the real question is pre rather than post-flop.
              I agree. I don't hate the flat pre with those good odds. If villain does not 3bet this size very often he is probably nutted, with a lot of high PPs in his range, with less combos of AA obv. Usually 3bets with good aces are sized a little bit bigger, but they are still in his range as well. But then when hitting the ace on flop the chances are somewhat lower he has ace better kicker. So if i were to hit TP in that situation i would gii. (But of course not happy with that checkminraise of his)
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