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Old 02-09-2018, 12:49 PM   #1
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Which spin n go staking group to join?

Hi,

I played around 1000 1$ spin n gos and have a winrate of apprx 10%. So i am considering to join a staking group mainly due to the advanced coaching which they are known to be giving. Do you guys can recommend any good staking firm? I am considering husng or smartspin. Is there any other better staking available in terms of coaching part? I would appreciate any suggestions or experience from you guys in this matter.
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:26 PM   #2
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

The staking forum here on 2p2 will list a variety of stables. PM people who have joined in the threads and ask them about it, though with your very low buyin level you're not looking for the exact same thing as a $30s+ regular, since those higher level players will get value from the stable comprised more of 1 on 1 and specific coaches, whereas your value will mostly be made up of group coaching and/or group coaching videos. Make sure there are up to date group coaching videos in any stable you join, stables that have stopped doing group coaching or don't have any recent material for you are big red flags.

You'll likely find up to a half dozen reputable ones to choose from that will make sense for a $1s player, it'll come down more to if they will accept a player at your level. I think a good application combined with your success over a moderate sample at a low level gives you a real shot though. See who responds and make a decisions from there. Good luck.
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:52 PM   #3
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

in order to beat 3$ and 7$ level you do not really need any stable. just take few hours of coaching with some solid regular at 30$ stake who will give you few good tips. this, combined with few hours of work at your own should be enough to beat 3$ and 7$ stake. later on you will see if you need any additional help (probably yes).
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:40 PM   #4
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

If his goal is to get to the $15s or $30s while building his skills the right way from day one, his track might be better than what you recommend. Especially since he's not giving up a lot even if he had to give up all his profits at the $1-7s (and he obviously wouldn't have to) vs investing hundreds, maybe thousands into a private coach.

The 1 on 1 coaching market can be really tough for buyers too. A coach can sell 1 hour a month at $150hr vs selling 40 hrs a month at $50hr. There's no way for the buyer to easily tell (outside of inactivity in a public thread) how much volume the coach gets, so it's hard to determine if their price is really fair market value or not.

That's not to say there aren't good 1 on 1 coaches, and that could be a good option for OP too, but it's just hard to easily see transparency in that market. This goes for really all poker games. I've seen other games have even larger issues too (like not revealing a screen name), but that's getting off topic, as I think pretty much every coach I've seen in HUSNGs and Spins on 2p2 has revealed their username and results when asked by students.
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Old 02-10-2018, 05:05 AM   #5
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

Thanks for spending your time to help me. I think i apply for 2-3 major staking groups and see if i get selected first of all.

I want to apply to these three groups. HUSNG, Smartspin and Spinlegends. I dont know anyone having experience with them..i just read about them from forums and their websites and found them impressive from what they claim to be offering...Is there any better groups exists that i should try ?

If Spins will stay in market for next 2-3 years atleast, i want to give it a serious shot. I think i stand apprx at 5.5/10 in spins as of now without any coaching/training and i know that i will improve to 100$ in an year if i get right guidance.

Would highly appreciate any feedbacks/warnings to be concerned about in my spins journey...
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:55 AM   #6
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

Few things here. I think climbing from $1s to $100s in a year is extremely ambitious and probably not possible for someone with no spin experience. You should probably recalibrate your expectations, even if you intend to work hard.

Kind of similar with putting yourself at "5.5/10" -- with 1k $1s under your belt, you're probably a 3/10 at best. No offense meant, but the game isn't that simple

Finally, I think the two best stables out there are 651 and WF (which I'm affiliated with, 651 I'm not), but both of those stables probably aren't so interested in taking a $1 player. But shopping around and looking for a stable right for you is definitely smart, whoever you wind up going with.
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:40 PM   #7
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

WF ? stands for what, can't find it on google
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:38 PM   #8
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

probably winningflips with lotte and kgbking. Evolve staking would be another stable to the stables already mentioned.
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:09 AM   #9
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probably winningflips with lotte and kgbking. Evolve staking would be another stable to the stables already mentioned.
Im one of evolves 100s regs, we are one of the few stables that take lower stakes guys with potential afaik, if you want to know anymore give me a pm and ill give you my skype details
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:22 AM   #10
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probably winningflips with lotte and kgbking. Evolve staking would be another stable to the stables already mentioned.
Thanks

What are the stables that pays you depending on your EV and not winnings ?
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Old 02-11-2018, 11:48 AM   #11
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

My stable "HUSNG" does offer it, I don't know about others. (except team 651)
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Old 02-11-2018, 12:44 PM   #12
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

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probably winningflips with lotte and kgbking. Evolve staking would be another stable to the stables already mentioned.
Yeah, I did mean WinningFlips, thanks We do have ev and normal deals, but in general are more interested in guys with decent sample at 7s+ already.
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Old 04-01-2018, 06:11 AM   #13
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Yeah, I did mean WinningFlips, thanks We do have ev and normal deals, but in general are more interested in guys with decent sample at 7s+ already.
Hello, say someone would decide to get to the 7$ stakes without a stable, what would be good chip/EV numbers and samplesizes you advise to get from 1$ to 3$ and then 7$ ? What would be good numbers at the 7$ to apply to a stable?

Not sure what numbers to expect at wich level, maybe you could help as you are in a stable...

My second question would be on what site to grind, PP with new RB (are there really that much Bots there?) or PS with almost no RB ? or doesnt it matter in the levels up to 7$ ???

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Old 04-01-2018, 09:36 AM   #14
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Hello, say someone would decide to get to the 7$ stakes without a stable, what would be good chip/EV numbers and samplesizes you advise to get from 1$ to 3$ and then 7$ ? What would be good numbers at the 7$ to apply to a stable?
Honestly, if you've had good results at $1/$3 over sample (some thousands of games) plenty of places would already be interested. I'm less knowledgeable about spins stuff, but if you're winning at $1s and $3s and b/eish at $7s, you could definitely find a stake. B/e is what, 35 or 40 cev or something? Not particularly crushing. Even if you're slightly losing at $7s, if you have volume and decent results at $3s many stables will take you in.

Basically sample proves that you're not a total beginner and that you're willing to invest time into playing and improving your game, which is what most stables are looking for.


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My second question would be on what site to grind, PP with new RB (are there really that much Bots there?) or PS with almost no RB ? or doesnt it matter in the levels up to 7$ ???

thanks
No idea. I know guys grinding on party, ps, wina, and other places. Don't know what's best at all.
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Old 04-01-2018, 12:24 PM   #15
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Re: Which spin n go staking group to join?

How I know which is better deal to me ? EV or normal deal ?
I undestand EV deal pays for your cEV(maybe), but whats the difference to a normal deal ?

Thanks for answer!
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