Spin and Go Strategy 2021 - Heads Up SNG and Spin and Gos -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

With the first pack, Spin and Go Strategy 2021, you get full access to 35 hours of the heads up strategy video pack as well as the 25 hours of 3-handed specific content listed in detail below. That's a total of 60 hours of videos.

Table of Contents

The ToC below is the order in which we recommend viewing the video pack. Concepts are covered from more general to more specific in a purposeful manner.

Spins Video 01 Introduction to Spin and Gos
1:06:19

HU Video 02 Poker Theory
Value betting, bluffing and defending.
4:47:46

HU Video 03 Adjustments
Identifying player types and correct strategic adjustments.
1:01:51

HU Video 04 HUD
Connecting frequencies with ranges to allow for adjustments.
0:32:34

HU Video 05 Winrate Maximizing
When and why to pass up on small edges in favor of later spots.
1:14:38

HU Video 06 Preflop HU
Applying poker theory to building pre-flop ranges in the form of charts.
9:28:16

Spins Video 02 3 Handed Preflop
Extending pre-flop HU understanding to new 3h situations, including SBvBB and BU play.
2:08:01

Spins Video 03 Flop Spin N Go
Extending understanding of flop play to new 3h situations including SBvBB and BU play.
3:54:11

HU Video 07 Flop
Exploring specific features of flop play in connection to general theory.
2:58:58

HU Video 08 ISR Intro
Introducing Individual Spot Reviews (ISR).
0:07:00

HU Video 09
ISR Defending vs C-Bets in Minraise Pots HU
1:13:30

HU Video 10
ISR HU SB Flop C-Betting in Minraise Pots
1:03:34

HU Video 11
ISR Limp C-Betting on SB on 5-10BB Effective Stacks
0:54:04

HU Video 12
ISR Facing Flop C-bets HU in Limped Pots
1:03:00

HU Video 13
ISR Flop C-betting HU from SB
0:58:10

HU Video 14
ISR SB Turn Barreling HU in Limped & Minraised Pots
1:02:49

HU Video 15
ISR Facing Turn Barrels OOP HU
1:15:23

HU Video 16
ISR OOP HU Turn Probe Opportunity
0:57:56

HU Video 17
ISR Facing Turn Probes HU
0:50:49

HU Video 18
ISR HU BB Turn Play After Call of Our XR
0:39:33

HU Video 19
ISR HU Opportunity to 3rd barrel
0:44:51

HU Video 20
ISR HU River Play After CheckCall Flop & Turn
1:02:32

HU Video 21
ISR Opportunities to River Probe Bets in Minraise & Limped Pots HU on BB
0:47:59

HU Video 22
ISR Facing River Probes HU
1:06:42

Spins Video 04
Individual Spot Review (ISR) C-betting SB vs BB 3h in minraise pots.
1:02:20

Spins Video 05
ISR 3h Flop C-bet SBvBB
0:39:24

Spins Video 06
ISR 3H SBvsBB IP Defense vs C-Bets in Open Pots
0:56:13

Spins Video 07
ISR SBvBB BB facing C-bet in limped pot
1:02:52

Spins Video 08
ISR BB vs SB 3H IP Flop Play When Getting Checked To
0:58:20

Spins Video 09
ISR 3H SBvsBB Raised Pot, BB Float Opportunity
1:13:56

Spins Video 10
ISR 3H SB vs BB Defending vs Flop Float
1:01:23

Spins Video 11
ISR 3H SB vs BB ISO Flop Play
0:54:23

Spins Video 12
ISR SB vs BB 3H Opportunity To Barrel Turn
0:59:18

Spins Video 13
ISR SBvBB SB opportunity to turn barrel (limped + minr pots)
1:06:21

Spins Video 14
ISR SBvsBB C-Bet Flop XC Turn Face River Barrel
0:42:56

Spins Video 15
ISR 3H SB vs BB OOP Delay C-Bet Opportunities
1:06:37

Spins Video 16
ISR 3H BU Opportunity To C-Bet in Minraise Pots
0:54:36

Spins Video 17
ISR Defending C-Bets BB vs BU in Minraise Pots
1:03:33

Spins Video 18
ISR BB vs BU Opportunity To CheckRaise
1:50:45

Spins Video 19
ISR 3H BU Facing XR on Flop
0:59:43

Spins Video 20
ISR 3H SB vs BU Flop Play After BU Open
0:59:04

Hand Charts

Included in each video package are approximately 200 charts.

There are 81 heads up charts, dubbed "The Wall of Charts" in PDF format.

There is an additional package of over 65 charts, including 36 Spin and Go Charts. These are in both JPEG and PioSolver format.

There are also an additional 52 3-handed readless ranges in the CoffeeCalcs format.

*Hand Charts are for use outside of gameplay.

Diamond Level "Everything" Package

We've also created a package that includes an extra 15 hours of content. You'll receive the 35 hours of heads up strategy video, the 25 hours of 3-handed specific video listed above, the charts package listed above, as well as 15 hours of video listed below, for a total of 75 hours of video.

Diamond Video 01 Postflop Theory - SB vs BB C-Bet Opportunity
1:12:09

Diamond Video 02 Postflop Theory 3H SB vs BB Defense vs C-bets IP in Minraise Pots
1:17:40

Diamond Video 03 Postflop Theory 3H BU vs BB Flop Play
1:11:55

Diamond Video 04 Postflop Theory Exploring SB vs BB Minraise Flop IP Bet
0:58:48

Diamond Video 05 Postflop Theory Exploring Turn Barreling OOP SB vs BB 3H
1:15:28

Diamond Video 06 ISR River Block Betting Heads-Up
0:34:23

Diamond Video 07 Forum Hands Review
1:13:58

Diamond Video 08 Forum Hands Review
0:50:05

Diamond Video 09 Forum Hands Review
0:59:14

Diamond Video 10 Forum Hands Review
0:56:09

Diamond Video 11 Forum Hands Review
1:13:25

Diamond Video 12 Building Reads and Adapting to Aggressive Recreationals
0:54:16

Diamond Video 13 GTO analysis - HU BB ISO nai pot understanding lines
1:08:02

Diamond Video 14 Game Review - coffee $60k Prizepool At 250s
1:34:50

About Coffeeyay

Coffeeyay has been a professional poker player and coach for the last 10 years. He regularly plays up to the $250 level Spin and Gos and has extensive experience in both HUSNGs and Spin and Gos. He has a strong background in physics, mathematics and teaching. He resides in Glasgow.

Here is his recent $250s Spin and Go Graph

Pricing

Spin and Go Strategy 2021 (60 hours of video content) $369

Spin and Go Strategy Diamond "Everything" Package (75 hours of video content) $449

Ordering

These video packages are available in streaming format only.

Spin and Go Strategy 2021 - Paypal and Credit Card orders Click Here. Skrill Orders Click Here. Your order will be manually activated within 16 hours of purchase.

Diamond "Everything" Package - Paypal and Credit Card orders Click Here. Skrill Orders Click Here.

Last edited by ChicagoRy; 03-04-2021 at 03:22 PM. Reason: clarification in ToC, thanks Bill!

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02-21-2021 , 01:22 PM

dave2000

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 65

i am playing $5 flash spins (regular) and take shots at $10.
would you say this series will help me climb to $25 Spins?
Or is the content created for higher levels?

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02-21-2021 , 01:39 PM

iberfoptic

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 8

What is the pricing? Can you provide a preview so I can get an idea of suitability please?

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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02-21-2021 , 02:14 PM

coffeeyay

See my staking thread

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Originally Posted by dev209

i am playing $5 flash spins (regular) and take shots at $10.
would you say this series will help me climb to $25 Spins?
Or is the content created for higher levels?

The pack is intended for anyone looking to spend time improving their poker play (especially HU+3h and short-stacked). It includes a presentation of fundamental concepts, a discussion of emergent concepts that arise naturally from the fundamental ones in certain contexts, and as much application of all of this as possible to practical game situations. I painstakingly constructed it to be as efficient value (in terms of time spent for improvements made) as possible for as many players as possible--regardless of stakes. I've tried to make it uniquely good--I consider it my (poker) life's work (so far). Your situation sounds like one of many great fits for the pack

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Originally Posted by iberfoptic

What is the pricing? Can you provide a preview so I can get an idea of suitability please?

You literally quoted the price in your reply...

as for sample videos, there are a couple up here: HU guide
(note: all the videos in the HU guide pack are included in the spins packs.)

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02-22-2021 , 08:57 AM

pensodasolo

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay

You literally quoted the price in your reply...

as for sample videos, there are a couple up here: HU guide
(note: all the videos in the HU guide pack are included in the spins packs.)

Is this course solver based? I mean, do you analize situation using a solver in the course?

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02-22-2021 , 09:54 AM

HokieGreg

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Originally Posted by pensodasolo

Is this course solver based? I mean, do you analize situation using a solver in the course?

He answered this question in the Heads Up thread for this video pack already

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02-26-2021 , 03:38 PM

ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by DOlivo1987

I just purchased the Diamond package and after paying with PayPal, appear to be frozen on the "Awaiting Payment Confirmation" page.

PayPal invoice ID: [removed]

My e-mail is [removed]

Still haven't received anything but the receipt from PayPal.

Just shot you an email back Dom, you're all setup now, thanks!

I'm unsure why it says "awaiting payment confirmation" because the payment went through right away, but these all do require manual activation. I write "within 16 hours" on this page just to be safe, but I've activated every single person within 2 hours except one (that ordered when I was asleep), so expect access very quickly unless you order at like 3am US time.

Cheers!

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02-26-2021 , 03:39 PM

DOlivo1987

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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy

Deleted my previous post because I didn't want to clutter up the thread but received an immediate reply and access to the package.

Much appreciated, thanks again!

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03-03-2021 , 02:31 PM

Bill Haywood

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I have been delving into the Spin package. I'm surprised how little organization or structure there is. The vids commonly do not have introductions or discussion of goals of a segment. They just turn on the mic and start talking. Very challenging to follow since no road signs are provided. Sometimes there are power points, but for the most part this is raw, unedited, barely planned footage.

Last edited by Bill Haywood; 03-03-2021 at 02:39 PM.

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03-04-2021 , 03:24 PM

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ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Bill, I want to say thanks for your help in this thread and via PM with Adam. We realized that the ordering I wrote on this page was incorrect and had users such as yourself jumping into the middle-end of the pack, I'm sorry Bill! I've updated the ordering now, the pack should feel far more coherent when watching it in the order described above, as it starts with introductions and more general concepts, before moving into more specific content.

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03-08-2021 , 06:18 AM

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camelodor

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 3

I am interested in both of them but would like to know how much of the 75 hours is old spinlegends content and what is new? Which year was the content produced?

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03-08-2021 , 02:50 PM

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ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by camelodor

I am interested in both of them but would like to know how much of the 75 hours is old spinlegends content and what is new? Which year was the content produced?

All of the theory videos were recorded between November 2020-February 2021. The Individual Spot Reviews are a combination of group coaching content from 2020 with his CoffeeGrinders stable and some of his prior group coaching with Spin Legends. They were edited in Jan-Feb 2021, to remove situations that weren't relevant to the pack and for better flow.

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03-10-2021 , 08:34 PM

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Saskquanch

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Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 26

I am lucky enough to have spent time using this course for my own game.

The theory section is invaluable as it builds a mental framework for how to think about poker. By the end of the theory section you have a qualitative mental model to evaluate the factors for decision points.

Coffee Goes through the use of solvers, and how to use them for study in a proper way. To better facilitate study. You will have a better understanding of how to use them, and how to adjust for exploitation.

The preflop content elaborates on this further, and you can see how solvers and exploit ranges are constructed in a way that is understandable. It's extremely comprehensive and when you are done you really have a better understanding of how preflop works, but a clear idea on how to improve!

The hand review sessions give "weighting" to your mental model, and help build intuition for qualifying the max EV decisions. They is enough hands where focused study on the spots will really build understanding.

There is a lot of information here, and it can be dense, but it's completely comprehensive. I suggest going slow. This is going to build a foundation for how to understand poker, it's not just some 2021 pop exploit lines.

Coffee spends a lot of time answering the question why, and it really helps elevate your understanding.

I think this course is the most comprehensive course I have taken in all of poker.

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09-22-2021 , 06:30 AM

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Lj.Poker

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Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 1

Any chance to buy 3-way readless charts only?

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09-22-2021 , 12:50 PM

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ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by Lj.Poker

Any chance to buy 3-way readless charts only?

We don't currently offer any of the charts separately. The primary reason for that is that there is context in how they were created and how/when they should be used within the pack.

We've also found over the years there are a lot of customers (not necessarily you) that are just looking for quick-easy magic pill type solutions and we don't want to be known as a place that tries to sell that. No matter what pack you buy or person coaching you, real effort and studying is required to excel in the game and we don't want to imply otherwise when selling products.

That said, especially in the last year or two, a far higher # of players understand the value and more importantly the limitations of hand charts, so our policy may adjust to the ever changing market at some point.

But, for example, people would sell charts 5+ years ago and they were almost always worthless in the end, even the few that were well intended. They were lacking context, poorly constructed and usually bought by people that were trying to avoid having to think about decisions (sort of "automating" their decision making process in game).

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10-01-2021 , 12:19 PM

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JRuViC

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,340

Considering switching some volume (and potentially all if the hourly ceiling is higher) from hypers to spins. This seems like a good place to start. Do you have any information about achievable winrates/etc? I see that a lot of stables have moved on from traditional sng's to spins so I assume it is higher. Anyways, looking forward to checking out this course!

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10-05-2021 , 10:41 AM

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ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by JRuViC

I'll get you an answer on achievable winrates.

I think your assumption is true generally and that's exactly why we've seen so many switch.

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10-11-2021 , 04:34 PM

#18

coffeeyay

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Originally Posted by JRuViC

Thinking in terms of winrate is going to be misleading because it will depend on format, site, and stakes. Instead, better to just think about hourly directly. In practice, hourly for spins tends to be around 0.5 BI/hr to 1 BI/hr--though of course this depends a lot on skill, stakes, and # tables played.

Spins offer pretty consistent traffic, but hourly will still vary with day of week and time of day and stuff like that too.

In my experience spins offer the highest accessible hourly in terms of BI/hr. Obviously in terms of raw $/hr perhaps nosebleed cash or being an established/division regular at high stakes hypers is higher--but these obviously have higher requirements in terms of bankroll/establishment stuff.

Hope you enjoy the course, my goal in making it was to make it both as comprehensive and deeply informative as possible.

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10-12-2021 , 06:49 AM

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Fish Whisperer

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that might be a dumb question but. Can I use it with my Phone and mac ?

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10-12-2021 , 03:23 PM

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ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by Fish Whisperer

that might be a dumb question but. Can I use it with my Phone and mac ?

Yes, that's a primary reason why we moved from downloads to streaming access.

This is the one exception, but isn't likely to apply to any of our buyers in a way that restricts their access:

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Due to hardware limitations, video streaming doesn't work on the original iPads and iPhones (3G or less). However, those devices are no longer supported by Apple and are a tiny percentage of the entire mobile device market.

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10-13-2021 , 01:25 AM

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Fish Whisperer

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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy

Yes, that's a primary reason why we moved from downloads to streaming access.

This is the one exception, but isn't likely to apply to any of our buyers in a way that restricts their access:

Wonderfull, thank You.

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10-14-2021 , 02:10 PM

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JRuViC

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay

Thanks for this. Right now I'm playing hyper 6max around $30 ABI across a few sites. Seems like the hourly is fairly similar based on what you've said, and I will probably play a mix of both.

I am primarily interested in the HU portion of your course - antes being the obvious difference aside, would the HU stuff be applicable equally to traditional SNG's? There isn't a lot of short stack HU content out there.

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10-18-2021 , 11:31 PM

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ChicagoRy

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Originally Posted by JRuViC

The HU stuff would be fully applicable to the HU situations you encounter in SNGs or MTTs. Back a handful of years ago, some of the better MTTers got wise and studied some HU (SNG) material, since the biggest pay gaps are at the very top and players in those formats are usually very poor (relative to equal stakes in HUSNGs) at HU.

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10-20-2021 , 12:37 PM

#24

Vvvvv

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay

Very interesting insight.

However, I am curious - what was your biggest downswing on your biggest stake you play? Both EV and $$$-wise.

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01-07-2022 , 06:02 PM

#25

coffeeyay

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Originally Posted by Vvvvv

Very interesting insight.

However, I am curious - what was your biggest downswing on your biggest stake you play? Both EV and $$$-wise.

Sorry for late reply. I've been playing for an awful long time, so both are awfully big--both EV and $$$-wise :-D I'm not going to throw numbers around because they're big enough that it would hurt to look them up haha feel free to use your imagination and just know that whatever DS you've had you're not going to be alone ;-)

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