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Old 06-17-2020, 03:53 AM   #476
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first level, new villains no read

hand 1 - we flop the nuts and villain 1 bets 3 streets and we knock him out
hand 2 - we 3! to 6bb on villain 2's 2bb open with K9o - villain 2 tank shoves

call/fold?

I'm leaning to call here since i've already dug a hole but it feels like a spew
why would you 3b? just flat and play the flop.
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Old 06-17-2020, 06:42 AM   #477
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why would you 3b? just flat and play the flop.
well i never claimed to have played it well before that point

main thing is it was the second hand and i had a massive lead having doubled up in first hand so that's a spot where people will sometimes just jam atc to end it or take the lead

just curious because it screamed fold to me but given i had committed 6bb already so like 18bb more to go i felt like folding there was a leak

as played I think it's kind of marginal to fold or call but it's such a major decision that i'm looking for more perspectives from the spin n go crowd
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:22 PM   #478
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It's mixed between flat and 3b/fold
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Old 07-08-2020, 09:53 AM   #479
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could some one help me calculate how big my chipEV should be, too beat the flash spin n gos ?
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Old 07-08-2020, 12:43 PM   #480
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3chips = 1% rake/roi +1% cause u will never hit the highest jackpot
example for 7% rake,
7*3= 21 +3(for the highest jackpot) = 24 chips/tourney
so for break even u need 24 chips in the longterm. if ur a way to positive person and think
u will hit the biggest jackpot in your career, its 21 chips
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Old 07-20-2020, 05:22 PM   #481
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Hey all,

So last year I got into $1 spins and did ok...was about 45 cev over 1000+ games before I stopped playing. Recently I decided to get back into it and things started off well. Over the first 1000 or so tournaments I was fluctuating between 30-50 cev. Then comes the last 2 days...in the last 2 days the nuke has gone off. In the last 120 hands my Cev is -60, and in the last few days I have dropped from 19,000 expected chips down to 9,000.

I have no idea what is going on here but obviously I need to evaluate my play. What statistic should i be looking for in PT4 as a start?

I understand that this is a high variance game but is it normal to have Cev fall so drastically during downturns?
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Old 07-24-2020, 11:45 AM   #482
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Hey all,

So last year I got into $1 spins and did ok...was about 45 cev over 1000+ games before I stopped playing. Recently I decided to get back into it and things started off well. Over the first 1000 or so tournaments I was fluctuating between 30-50 cev. Then comes the last 2 days...in the last 2 days the nuke has gone off. In the last 120 hands my Cev is -60, and in the last few days I have dropped from 19,000 expected chips down to 9,000.

I have no idea what is going on here but obviously I need to evaluate my play. What statistic should i be looking for in PT4 as a start?

I understand that this is a high variance game but is it normal to have Cev fall so drastically during downturns?
didn't see a way to edit...

So things have thankfully turned around. Made some minor tweaks - less aggressive pre-flop, more aggressive post-flop, more willing to fire the 3rd barrell on bluffs, less reluctant to lay down strong hands. The most important change, I think, has been my narrowing of ranges when at full-table in all positions.
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Old 07-24-2020, 08:57 PM   #483
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Can you get CEV calculations on bovada?
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Old 08-03-2020, 04:14 PM   #484
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Re: Spin and Go Beginners Thread

Anyone knows what aid works better for stars? Starshelper or starscaption?, they both do pretty similar stuff rite?

On other things, anyone knows if there is a way to load hands from unibet.fr to pt4 or h2n?
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:34 AM   #485
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didn't see a way to edit...

So things have thankfully turned around. Made some minor tweaks - less aggressive pre-flop, more aggressive post-flop, more willing to fire the 3rd barrell on bluffs, less reluctant to lay down strong hands. The most important change, I think, has been my narrowing of ranges when at full-table in all positions.
Your change in strategy has nothing to do with your run. Im not saying those are good or bad changes, just that is not possible to get feedback after 3 days.
My main point is that that is good that you are doubting what you are doing and trying to find better strategy but in same time dont assume things you changed are good because of your good run.
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Old 08-20-2020, 01:53 AM   #486
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$1-$5 games should be beaten with 3fiqure cEV
anything half from that then one needs to study, and grind aalll day long, everyday until cEV starts to close up to a cool hundy.
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Old 08-23-2020, 09:18 AM   #487
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Hey,

so since Stars have offered me one of these Rakeback Challenges I currently play some $5 Spin&Go Flashs on the side. I wonder if they are beatable to a decent extend? On Winamax where I play usually (though, regular SNGs, not Spins/Expressos) in their Expresso Flash (equivalent of Spin&Go Flash) at least 90% of Regs are seem to be losing pre RB, and on Stars there isn't even regular rakeback. So what kind of EVROI could be attained on Stars in Flashs by good Regs?

Thanks!
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:19 PM   #488
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unless u sble to crush normal spins, id stay far away from those other ones.

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Old 09-02-2020, 11:16 AM   #489
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Hey,

so since Stars have offered me one of these Rakeback Challenges I currently play some $5 Spin&Go Flashs on the side. I wonder if they are beatable to a decent extend? On Winamax where I play usually (though, regular SNGs, not Spins/Expressos) in their Expresso Flash (equivalent of Spin&Go Flash) at least 90% of Regs are seem to be losing pre RB, and on Stars there isn't even regular rakeback. So what kind of EVROI could be attained on Stars in Flashs by good Regs?

Thanks!
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I don't know the source of this cEV quotes he posted, I ballpark that it's from Steel Phoenix equity sharing Russian staking thing community but I could be wrong, I have not double checked the reference

I think you can get 25cEV (which is equivalent to 41.6cEV in 500 chip spins) if you adjust your game specifically for the format else I think you'll make about 16cEV which equivalets 26.66 regular spin cEV and is losing, unless your RB challenge is really good
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