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Spin and go adjustments? Spin and go adjustments?

03-25-2015 , 03:54 AM
Spin and go seems to be a very different animal from HUSNG. How do we adjust?

1. PF BTN play
What do we open? Do we mr 65s/K2o/Q8o? Do we open shove 22-55 and some Ax? Is there any case for open limping, eg 15-20bb open vs aggro opponent?
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03-25-2015 , 10:59 AM
open shoving 22-33 and low Ax is a losing strategy 25bb.
Considering MR button, I guess depends how good you are post.
Keep in mind you'll be 3bet approx 25% (by either sb or bb)
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03-26-2015 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by xkcd
open shoving 22-33 [...] is a losing strategy 25bb.
I agree but this is probably still the best strategy you have available. Folding is not an option, Limping doesn't look too appealing and neither does minR.
it's a mater of picking the best of the bad I guess.
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03-26-2015 , 07:52 PM
adjusting by not playing this luckbox pos?
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03-26-2015 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by el braco
adjusting by not playing this luckbox pos?
what's pos?
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03-26-2015 , 10:35 PM
piece of s***
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03-27-2015 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by el braco
piece of s***
actually NOT playing them would be a really stupid thing to do...
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03-28-2015 , 05:48 AM
I don't think this is pos, yes rake and variance is huge but there is no game format which is so rich of fish.
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03-28-2015 , 11:43 AM
2. SB play
Since we played SB oop while 3handed, there are some hands that should be open shoved instead of minraised right? Stuff like K7o 15bb deep, pretty hard to play postflop, cant really mr/call, but have more equity open shoving than folding. Do we play Ax/Q6s/97s this way as well? How about hands like QJ which has more postflop playability?
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03-28-2015 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by genher
I agree but this is probably still the best strategy you have available. Folding is not an option, Limping doesn't look too appealing and neither does minR.
it's a mater of picking the best of the bad I guess.
I'm also curious about optimal plays with these types of holdings.
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03-28-2015 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by genher
I agree but this is probably still the best strategy you have available. Folding is not an option, Limping doesn't look too appealing and neither does minR.
it's a mater of picking the best of the bad I guess.
Not sure what you mean. If it is a losing strategy to open shove you can always do better by folding .. Need to establish which among mr, limp or open fold is best.
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03-31-2015 , 12:55 PM
Hello guys,
It’s not 100% accurate, but I tried to check some different scenarios for this situation (open shove hands like 22-66 and A2o-A7o, A2s-A6s @ 25 bb deep).
In this case we can face 2 types of opponents:
-->Loose opponent. Will call the shove with roughly the following range: (top 23%) 22+,A3s+,A4o+,K9s+,KTo+,Q9s+,JTs
-->Tight opponent. Will call the shove with roughly the following range: (top 9.8%) 77+, A10o+, A9s+.
Sure, some players might be much tighter and others much looser, but these ranges should represent an estimation of average loose or tight player.
As we will be the first to act and facing 2 opponents we could be playing against:
Tight + Tight
Tight + Loose
Loose + Loose
Obviously, our shoving range (small pp and low Ax) has the worst expectation when facing 2 loose opponents.
I also set an overcall range for the second loose opponent consisting of: (12%) 77+,A6s+,A8o+,KJs+
And the results are:

We have negative expectation with 22-33, A2o-A7o, A2s-A6s... it’s worse than folding(which is 0 ev from the start)
The only hands that worth shoving here seems to be 44-66 and maybe A8o-A9o, A7s-A8s cause the others seem to be either to weak or too strong for a shove…
The remaining questions would be:
1. Do you think the ranges I assigned for tight/ loose players are reflecting the reality for Spin & Go’s tendencies?
2. What are the results that can be obtained by limp or MR instead of shoving? Does anybody have a decent sample size playing these hands (22-66 and A2o-A7o, A2s-A6s) in this way? …and want’s to share?
Thanks
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04-02-2015 , 11:47 AM
Definitely don't mean to hijack this thread, but as a quick side note, have any of you guys found any solid resources for studying Spin n Go spots or strategy? Like are there any training videos out there about them? Or are most people just plugging away on ICMizer on their own?
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04-05-2015 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xkcd
open shoving 22-33 and low Ax is a losing strategy 25bb.
Considering MR button, I guess depends how good you are post.
Keep in mind you'll be 3bet approx 25% (by either sb or bb)
can you please detail more about 25% 3bet by either sb or bb ?
I think you consider very very tight ranges for both opponents.

thanks.
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04-06-2015 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by denysalin
can you please detail more about 25% 3bet by either sb or bb ?
I think you consider very very tight ranges for both opponents.

thanks.
Not making any assumptions, pop tendencies indicate 25-30 %
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04-06-2015 , 12:14 PM
ok, I understand now

thanks
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