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09-08-2019 , 10:15 AM

tittenmaus69

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can someone give me a startingpoint for good crushing winrates by positon, so that i can look for where im leaking the most atm

3H SB
3H BB
3H BTN
2H SB
2H BB

please.
cheers

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09-09-2019 , 01:39 PM

ohly

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Originally Posted by tittenmaus69

can someone give me a startingpoint for good crushing winrates by positon, so that i can look for where im leaking the most atm

3H SB -5 to 0
3H BB -5 to 0
3H BTN 20 to 25
2H SB 25 to 30
2H BB 10 to 15

please.
cheers

depends alot on limit though. this yields ~60cEV, so adjust according to your target cEV.

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09-09-2019 , 02:20 PM

maxagso

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Originally Posted by ohly

depends alot on limit though. this yields ~60cEV, so adjust according to your target cEV.

Depending on what stakes you play i think you should aim a bit higher than this in general. Specially HU SB. If you play 2-3 tables on PS.com i think 30-40cev HU SB on 30s-60s stake is a good benchmark for the games today 2019. On winamax i had close to 50cev HU SB on 25s last year but i think games have changed a bit there.

The posted example is of coruse good. But i think way too many players settle with good to decent results. There are some really strong crushers out there. But it also depends on how many tables you play.

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09-09-2019 , 03:22 PM

gdaviezz

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Originally Posted by ohly

depends alot on limit though. this yields ~60cEV, so adjust according to your target cEV.

3H SB -5 to 0
3H BB -5 to 0
3H BTN 20 to 25
2H SB 25 to 30
2H BB 10 to 15

this seems pretty wrong to me id go more like;
3H SB 0 to 5+
3H BB -5 to 0
3H BTN 30+
2H SB 18+
2H BB 10+

as far as i remember these where solid for $100s

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09-09-2019 , 04:59 PM

ohly

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Originally Posted by gdaviezz

seems to me that this is also a matter of playstyle. your stats imply a more rigorous approach to maximizing EV 3 handed and hence lowering the cEV in heads up play.

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09-09-2019 , 07:22 PM

Narkwin

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are these winrate numbers in cev or bb/100?

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09-10-2019 , 08:50 AM

gdaviezz

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Originally Posted by ohly

seems to me that this is also a matter of playstyle. your stats imply a more rigorous approach to maximizing EV 3 handed and hence lowering the cEV in heads up play.

how is it possible to maximize 3H cev while in hand reducing HU cev?

@Narkwin the ones i posted are bb/100

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09-11-2019 , 09:21 AM

ohly

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Originally Posted by gdaviezz

how is it possible to maximize 3H cev while in hand reducing HU cev?

@Narkwin the ones i posted are bb/100

i posted cEV stats. i would say that passing up small edges leads to longer 3h play and hence higher cEV in 3h and less in HU. what do you think?

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09-11-2019 , 02:22 PM

gdaviezz

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Originally Posted by ohly

i posted cEV stats. i would say that passing up small edges leads to longer 3h play and hence higher cEV in 3h and less in HU. what do you think?

yea that does make sense, HU would be shallower more often meaning less edge and more flips

dont know the answer to the question in CEV i thought your answers were in bb/100

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09-13-2019 , 11:45 AM

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Pakichu777

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Originally Posted by gdaviezz

sick winrates, guess i'm not solid

this gives i think 70-80 cev

BTN 3H should be +30
SB vs BTN 3H should be -5
BB vs BTN 3H should be -25
SB vs BB 3H should be 0
BB vs SB 3H should be +10

SBvsBB HU +15
BBvsSB HU +5

for 7's - 40's

Last edited by Pakichu777; 09-13-2019 at 11:58 AM.

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09-14-2019 , 06:34 AM

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gdaviezz

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Originally Posted by Pakichu777

sick winrates, guess i'm not solid

this gives i think 70-80 cev

BTN 3H should be +30
SB vs BTN 3H should be -5
BB vs BTN 3H should be -25
SB vs BB 3H should be 0
BB vs SB 3H should be +10

SBvsBB HU +15
BBvsSB HU +5

for 7's - 40's

haha what can i say, its been a while since i tried to manually contract cancer, tried to look for some old spreadsheets but couldnt find any and i actually thought i was being a bit tight with these winrates

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