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03-12-2022 , 08:47 AM
This is a recent hand a played that I flagged to review. In going through the solver it basically indicated when I rearise to 7 it offered calling/raise to 4.5/raise to 6/all in as being approximately equal EV. If I understand the solver right this should have been a call on the all in rather than a fold. Am I missing something in analyzing these hands? This was first time playing him and this was hand 16 and he appeared pretty tight. This was his first 4 bet but 15 hands is not a lot to go by.

Thanks

PokerStars - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 15.95 BB
Hero (BB): 21.55 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6c 5c
SB raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, SB raises to 15.95 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 14 BB
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03-12-2022 , 09:34 AM
You need 28% equity to call, and you will have it vs most ranges so thats why you have to call.
But imo its not a good 3bet, gto does this sometimes, but that doesnt mean you should too.
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03-12-2022 , 10:55 PM
if anything then 3bs 76s not nonAI 3bet, especially if ya fold to 4bs.
and when villain is pretty tight then it makes zero sense to do so.
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03-13-2022 , 01:37 AM
This is crazy.
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03-13-2022 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by none888
You need 28% equity to call, and you will have it vs most ranges so thats why you have to call.
But imo its not a good 3bet, gto does this sometimes, but that doesnt mean you should too.
Thanks for this. Sometimes I have issues with poker in this regard. I look and say I am going to lose a lot in the spot although I do have the equity to call. I come from a sports betting background where you can analyze make those calls easier than in real time playing poker. I also have been studying a lot of FTO so I will take into consideration your thoughts that just because a solver says it is the thing to do, maybe it isn't.
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03-13-2022 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Acidjoe
This is a recent hand a played that I flagged to review. In going through the solver it basically indicated when I rearise to 7 it offered calling/raise to 4.5/raise to 6/all in as being approximately equal EV. If I understand the solver right this should have been a call on the all in rather than a fold. Am I missing something in analyzing these hands? This was first time playing him and this was hand 16 and he appeared pretty tight. This was his first 4 bet but 15 hands is not a lot to go by.

Thanks

PokerStars - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 15.95 BB
Hero (BB): 21.55 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6c 5c
SB raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, SB raises to 15.95 BB and is all-in, fold

SB wins 14 BB
Why did you pick such a large sizing to 3bet this shallow? Once SB rips it in, you basically need to call your whole range. I think a 3bet of 3.5 accomplishes the same thing and makes a fold less gross.
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03-18-2022 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
Why did you pick such a large sizing to 3bet this shallow? Once SB rips it in, you basically need to call your whole range. I think a 3bet of 3.5 accomplishes the same thing and makes a fold less gross.
Good question. a lot of times I do err on the side of aggression so I will rip that in to force a fold. When that doesn't happen then I kick myself. I am getting better at not doing things like this. It took me a long time to be able to min raise in spins. Lots to learn which is why I am here asking questions and trying to gain more experience.
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04-22-2022 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by VeniceMerchant
Why did you pick such a large sizing to 3bet this shallow? Once SB rips it in, you basically need to call your whole range. I think a 3bet of 3.5 accomplishes the same thing and makes a fold less gross.
This!

Generally I like the aggression but I donÂ’t understand it here. I get you are trying to get him to fold but what are you repping here? Are you long to bet so big with AK, AA, KK, or QQ? No because you donÂ’t want them to fold out. As a player this would remind me of those guys who jam the button 3-way with weak Ax and small pocket pairs. I would be you are going to get a lot of shoves from a lot of suited hands down to 78, and lot of Ax, and KQ, KJ, QJ etc. To this end you would be much better off running this with 87s or 89s since you would have good equity agains most of that range combined with the fold equity.
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05-02-2022 , 04:45 PM
Keep in mind that the GTO solutions suggests SB limps most of their range rather than opening 2bb:




Facing this bet, 76s pure 3bets mixing all sizes. However if you take note of the overall frequencies, your range mostly prefers to shove or 3bet using a small size. The middling size forces you to call most of your 3betting range facing a shove, as the price is just so good. That's generally why a smaller 3bet or simply a 3bet shove is preferred overall.




Here's SB's strategy facing the medium 3bet:



If you plug their shoving range into an equity calculator, you'll find that suited connectors have more than enough pot odds to call. Hero equity facing SB shove:

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