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09-26-2010 , 09:33 PM
Ok so villain is quite weird, you can tell he thinks about the game yet is extremely nitty and exploitable.

Likes to bluff when you show weakness, but when he raises its generally a good hand. is pretty floaty and has shown the capability of overbet bluffing when you played passive line, and likely has a fold button due to folding to my barrels quite often.

First hand, when he raises the turn I'm not sure if I can raise for value. Previously he limped with pocket ks and potted a k63r flop so i know he doesn't slowplay sets. And I also know that he generally likes to cbet with top and second pair and check back weaker showdown value.

BTN/SB: t1560.00 52 BBs
Hero (BB): t1440.00 48 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with J 7
BTN/SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t60) 7 J 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t60) K (2 players)
Hero bets t50.00, BTN/SB raises to t100, Hero?

Basically since villain isn't too aggro in these tiny pots, yet does like to float and take away the pot later, I thought I might build a opt to bluff catch. However the raise takes me by surprise, I don't think I have any fe. wtf do I do

BTN/SB: t620.00 15.50 BBs
Hero (BB): t2380.00 59.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 3 K
BTN/SB calls t20, Hero checks

Flop: (t80) A 3 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t40.00 BTN/SB raises to 200, hero?
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09-26-2010 , 10:27 PM
i dont get how you check flop first hand but bet 2nd hand tbh
if anything i'd do it the other way around for sure
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09-26-2010 , 11:36 PM
The top hand I call, because you're going to get a bet out of him on the river when he valuebets his Kx, and you're saving money when he's got K5/K7. So in short, no value in a raise here. The bottom hand, is easy because you're short... just jam.

If it was deeper, you wouldn't want to fold out his XXss hands, which you'll stack if the flush comes, so I'd like a call there >75bb instead.
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09-26-2010 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz0r
i dont get how you check flop first hand but bet 2nd hand tbh
if anything i'd do it the other way around for sure
wanted c/r the first hand, bad idea?
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09-26-2010 , 11:56 PM
Hand 1 -

Valuebet the flop. We have a lot of equity, and there are a lot of hands villain will peel with. A5,45,56, A7, 67, 78,79, if he is passive preflop we can also add KJ,QJ, QT,JT,J9.J8. We have the J blocker so the Jx hand combinations decrease so we can weight that part of his range lighter. There are a lot of hands that will call us on the flop. As a general rule, we want to be getting money into the pot when we have a lot of equity.

As played, I don`t see what he`s value betting here with. 3bet the turn for value. K7 and K5 are the only hands in his valuebetting range. KJ bets the flop, as do sets.

I see his bluffing range as: A5,45,56, A7, 67, 78,79, QT. There are so many more hand combinations in his bluffing range then in his valuebetting range, and since he has a tendency to bluff, I`m going to call (since there is no FD, only 1 OESD, and gutshots, there aren`t too many rivers I hate, I`m going to continue the passive line and calling most rivers.

Hand 2 -

Board: As 3h 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.992% 48.64% 00.35% 74634 543.50 { Ks3s }
Hand 1: 51.008% 50.65% 00.35% 77729 543.50 { AA, 44-33, A2s+, 65s, A2o+, 65o }

I have his range on the flop after he raises as: AA, 44-33, A2s+, 65s, A2o+, 65o . I don`t see him raising KK/QQ type hands with the A high board because he is probably too weak. With 49% equity vs his value range alone, and the stack sizes, I'm shipping the flop. He is bluffing some % of the time.

EDIT: Our equity vs villains range on the turn in hand 1


Board: 7c Jh 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 85.713% 85.71% 00.00% 106919 0.00 { Jd7s }
Hand 1: 14.287% 14.29% 00.00% 17821 0.00 { A7s, A5s, K7s, K5s, QTs, 97s+, 87s, 75s+, 65s, 54s, A7o, A5o, K7o, K5o, QTo, 97o+, 87o, 75o+, 65o, 54o }

Last edited by potpotshove; 09-27-2010 at 12:05 AM.
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09-27-2010 , 12:05 AM
comments "as played" since they are somewhat interesting (esp hand 1)

hand 1: i probably just flat the turn; 3bet/folding seems too ridic and i dont know if we can call it off vs a jam tbh and i dont even think he's going to call the 3bet that often
i'd lead around 220 into 260 on all rivers, except 5x/Kx in which case i may make a small blockbet of around 120, Jx just bet 220, 7x checkraise

hand 2: just get it in now, you're flipping vs better made hands almost and are crushing all draws out there + you'll have at least SOME fold equity; i wouldn't stab though since we're either flipping or you have him crushed, i think it's better to let him stab with all his air hands
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09-27-2010 , 12:19 AM
so in hand 2 if u wouldnt stab, would u c/r instead? or c/c?
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09-27-2010 , 12:27 AM
checkraise if he pots i think, c/c if he bets 1bb
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09-27-2010 , 12:28 AM
nice, cheers
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09-27-2010 , 12:31 AM
maybe checkminraise if he bets 1bb, depends a bit on gameflow i guess, as long as you fold cant do much wrong obv
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09-27-2010 , 01:04 AM
spam you dont expect him to vbet a king on the river in hand one? or are you leading because it's too thin to c/r and he's never going to be bluffing/bluff raising our lead
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09-27-2010 , 01:56 AM
i'm leading because his range is aimed towards showdown hands
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