Lets say villain opens 64% and cbets 73%
I searched the equilab and it gives 22 a 49,5% equity.
Do you call+evaluate ott?
Depends of vilains 2barrel frequency?



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I would raise on this board any two cards against this guy. But I suck, so don't take me seriously.

c/c re eval turn

chk fold

your almost never going to realise your equity vs majority of opponents and your only happy is another 2 rolls off.

You would much prefer having a hand like kj to float here on the flop even though 22's relative hand strength is higher

dont think im explaining too well but im tired as sh*t lol

maybe 3-bet pre flop if villain is opening this wide? 200-240ish?
If villain calls than c-bet (as it's pretty dry) and shut down on turn if called I would say

I'm a fish still so don't take this as gospel
Also I'm assuming you are BB???

Why do you think it's better than a flat 50bb deep? 64% open isn't exactly very wide.

3B non allin 22?disaster

C/f flop

really tempted to ship pre but against 64% its prob bad. c/c flop and see a turn

Ship pre 50bb to a minraise,for what reason?

because it plays like **** post, he's super unlikely to call with the correct range vs your shove (i.e. middle suited connectors that do amazing against small PPs), and most of the time called you're flipping.

that being said, i still think call this deep vs 65% open is better. we basically have to set mine though, but set of 222 is a well disguised hand since it often hits on dry boards (i.e. 2 bigcards+1 low, a 100% cbet flop for most players) were you won't get to much credit when you play back against a c-bet.
but a shove is way better than non-allin 3bet IMO.

i would c/f this flop, since we basically have no equity in the hand (as you can see, small PPs play like ****), and c/r isn't to great, either. would much rather do it with some equity (well i guess we have the backdoor draw, too. but meh.) but i don't think c/c is bad, either. pretty marginal spot either way imo.

Feels like every option on the flop is close. I expect a cbet 100% otf and a 64% range doesn't hit the flop a lot. Hands that might not be in his range could include 43s-93s, 56o-J5o, 43o-Q3o, 52, 32.

Call: If there's an unpaired board that we can call on, it's got to be this one. It's not like we're going to ch/fold Ax anyway, so why not call with 22.

Fold: The second highest card being a 5 probably makes it a good board to barrel from villain's pov (I think).

Raise: If we think our hand is slightly too weak to call, it could be a good spot to ch/ra.


I'd lean towards calling one and hoping to get to showdown, but I don't play that high so I don't know if that's optimistic. Our range is kinda face up even if we ch/ca Qx some %.

hey,

I never shove pre here very deep man.... on flop check/calling is the worst ...i raise , 1st he will fold aloot of the time to ur c/r... 2nd u get more info about his hand..3rd u stole the initiative and he will know u will fight back...4th if u get called and hit on turn he wont have a clue ..but obv we give up if we didn't improve...and we give up if he re raised us...

so all in all, raising here is better than calling imo : )

I dont even think about raising here.people call a lot of times,and its not really easy (at least for me) to keep betting in the blind.
So i think,calling and folding are the 2 best options.
Calling:the good thing is our equity,that 22 have here.By calling we want to go to showdown as free,as possible.
Folding:The good thing when folding our underpair,is that we don't lose much,we dont have to guess if villains 2nd barrel is for value(which most times is and we have to fold).

As for 3betting nonAI preflop,i go with orsulabert.its a disaster.

It's not.

And OP, although this depends on villain's tendency, most turn cards are gonna be good for him to barrel since they will be overcards to 5 often times. In order for you to c/c here and go to showdown, you also have to rely on him a) not barreling enough and b) not improving in the future street. Like, your hand is almost impossible to improve, while his unpaired cards have way more outs.

Unless you have reads that he's not barreling light, c/f and move on.

Well most times i ch/f unless i dont have reads that he shuts down a lot after stabing the flop.
As for the 3bet nonAI pre,i think our only benefit is that we tighten his range mostly to big cards and we can take a lot of pots at baby flops.
I think most times,especially against good opponents,we ll end up losing chips by 3bet pre/cbet flop and shut down at most turns,that are scary for us.
I would like your opinion mela.

Grunch.

Obv. the problem with 22 is you're seeing overs 95% on turn and river so all that equity is assuming you get AI right now and while you might have 50% equity vs. that range, that whole range isn't calling.

Personally I'm inclined to flat and reevaluate if villain doesn't db and has shown an ability to read board texture (which makes it possible for you to rep some turns).

Readless, or vs. an opponent without these attributes, I'm folding.

taking down 3bbs.
shipping pre is probably already not best though, especially since it gets a bit transparent at that stack depth, but not considering it at all is wrong, it shouldn't be too far from the point where shipping gets optimal.

how is a NAI 3bet bad? depends on his call3bet%, but I think its best.

it might be cause i am coming from mtt's but shipping 50bb eff is just stupid.

I know that at hu sng the 3bb that we ll take are really good,but i dont like it.

So you are saying vs someone that folds a lot to 3-bets 3-betting 22 is best? Just think for a minute about why that is not a good strategy.

This kind of stack depth sucks with low PP. Calling sucks because almost every flop is difficult, 3betting it sucks to get called, and we are a little to deep to shove if hes not opening wide enough. I know ive folded 22 in similar spots pre vs some players.. that may be to nitty.

Check raise/ fold the flop

Hey,thanks for the answer,its bad to fold this pre,that deep.