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Old 02-25-2011, 12:45 AM   #1
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Short microstakes hand history

I really can't handle this type of opponent. what do i do?


Hand #1
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1500 75 BBs
Hero (BB): t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K 9
BTN/SB raises to t100, 1 fold

Hand #2
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BB: t1520 76 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1480 74 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with T K
Hero raises to t40, 1 fold

Hand #3
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BTN/SB: t1500 75 BBs
Hero (BB): t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 4 4
BTN/SB raises to t80, 1 fold

Hand #4
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1520 76 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1480 74 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K T
Hero raises to t40, 1 fold

Hand #5
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1500 75 BBs
Hero (BB): t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 3 6
BTN/SB raises to t80, 1 fold

Hand #6
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1520 76 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1480 74 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with J K
Hero raises to t40, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t240) A Q Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB raises to t340, Hero folds

Hand #7
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1760 88 BBs
Hero (BB): t1240 62 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 2 A
BTN/SB raises to t100, 1 fold

Hand #8
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1780 89 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1220 61 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 6 2
1 fold

Hand #9
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BTN/SB: t1790 89.50 BBs
Hero (BB): t1210 60.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K 3
BTN/SB raises to t80, 1 fold

Hand #10
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1810 90.50 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1190 59.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 2 7
1 fold

Hand #11
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1820 91 BBs
Hero (BB): t1180 59 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with Q 2
BTN/SB raises to t60, 1 fold

Hand #12
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1840 92 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1160 58 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with T 3
1 fold

Hand #13
Poker Stars $2.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BTN/SB: t1850 92.50 BBs
Hero (BB): t1150 57.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 7 Q
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t160, BTN/SB raises to t260, Hero calls t100

Flop: (t520) 9 4 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t220, BTN/SB raises to t1590 all in, Hero calls t670 all in

Turn: (t2300) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t2300) K (2 players - 2 are all in)
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:08 AM   #2
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

hand 3 is a flat call u have massive implied odds given he seems like a spewtard if you hit.


hand 6 dont bet when its checked to you, ask yourself why is he not cbetting a flop that he would 100% bet if he had air, instead just check to try and hit your gutshot, plus if he has air your hand is good anyway so no point in betting.

hand 13:

Why are you 3bet bluffing a maniac, against these types of people you are not going to win in the bluffing war as they obv just dont care about what hand they have, never 3bet bluff these guys, just be more patient keep doing as you were doing, the more experienced you get in husngs' the more you will realise you dont need to be worried about getting run over against these types of opponents as when you finally make a hand or hit they will give you all your chips back and more,

the worst thing you can do is trying to fight fire with fire, these guys want to gamble and when you make impatient bluffs you are playing right into there hands its what they want.

just wait and value/trap them, you were playing fine just folding.
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:32 AM   #3
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

the game is all about hand 13 , you tilted and reraised preflop or you just decided to make a move ? You just were card dead against an aggro villain.

That last hand is funny , ussualy these aggro guys do not raise to t80/t100 all hands and all of a suddent raise to t60 , unless they have some big hand and they want you to call.

fold preflop to his 3 bet or reraise all in (if you had a good hand).

flop play is bad even with those reads imo , I would check raise all in. If you check the guy will try to bluff with ATC and then you shove so he thinks you have a big pocket pair and thus you maximize your fold equity.

so , the 3 things I believe you can improve in this hand is:
- do not play a 3bet pot with Q7 especially against a guy that will bet every flop
- on that flop check raise (so you will keep all his ATC in) , but when you donk bet and villain reraises all in you are beat imo (he has something more often than not)
- villain raises to t100 almost every time , not he raises small , get a read on what that means
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Old 02-25-2011, 03:10 AM   #4
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

Okay thanks guys.

Just one more thing, I'm guessing the optimal/easiest strategy against these type of players is to fold until i hit and then passively play the hand, but what type of range should I be playing with (both preflop and postflop)?

It feels as if i should be playing top <10% of hands preflop but that means that as soon as I call he can just play super cautiously sacrifice the chips and claim them back in the long run. If he hits when I call I'm in a pretty crap situation and bound to lose quite a few chips.


So yeah, I've probably lost 8 of the last 10 games that I've played against overbetting maniacs. I can beat other types of players just not these guys.
Any extra tips would be nice
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:49 PM   #5
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

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Okay thanks guys.

Just one more thing, I'm guessing the optimal/easiest strategy against these type of players is to fold until i hit and then passively play the hand
No, you need to fight fire with fire and it will make you a better player.

Just start 3betting all your pairs, Ax and Kx hands (not Q7) and dont be afraid to get it in light.

Like in the hand where you had A2, he makes it 5x and you fold.

By this point in the match, I would certainly consider just shoving, he very likely just has garbage and will fold, and maybe we a call from KQ/KJ. Optimal? Probably not, but consider it.

In short, you have to not be afraid and just gamble, if you wait for a big hand in a HU SnG vs a maniac, it may be too late when you hit and you will be too shortstacked to get real value from it.

If you are learning HU, trying playing AS a maniac for a few games and it might help your understanding on how to better combat them.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:11 PM   #6
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

Hand 1 = call.
Hand 3= shove.
Hand 7= shove.
hand 9= Sometimes I call here vs this guy.
Hand 13= I don't know what you are doing. You could flat or fold pre. Either might be ok against this guy.

I think, at the outset of a match at the 2's, you have to assume that your opponent is drunk or drooling until proven otherwise.

Imo, the 4x on the very first hand does nothing to offset that assumption. I will never fold k9 there.
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:00 AM   #7
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

3: call
6: cbh flop you aren't folding out anything
13: fold pre
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Old 03-02-2011, 02:17 PM   #8
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Re: Short microstakes hand history

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No, you need to fight fire with fire and it will make you a better player.

Just start 3betting all your pairs, Ax and Kx hands (not Q7) and dont be afraid to get it in light.

Like in the hand where you had A2, he makes it 5x and you fold.

By this point in the match, I would certainly consider just shoving, he very likely just has garbage and will fold, and maybe we a call from KQ/KJ. Optimal? Probably not, but consider it.

In short, you have to not be afraid and just gamble, if you wait for a big hand in a HU SnG vs a maniac, it may be too late when you hit and you will be too shortstacked to get real value from it.

If you are learning HU, trying playing AS a maniac for a few games and it might help your understanding on how to better combat them.
nice post, but what about if you have huge edge postflop? Is it still optimal to build bigger pot oop with stuff like K7o/A4o ? I generally flatcall those hands
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:59 PM   #9
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Hand 3= shove.
No. Why would you want to get it in so deep (that's what she said) with a small pair? You can find a much better spot than this to ship over the top. Just flat for implied.
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