This is a very common spot, just wondering what you guys think the optimal line is to take... I think my standard play if he c bets 40 would be to raise to 100, and to do the same with Jx and some air hands for balance.
However, given he c bets 60, it becomes trickier.. do you still go for a semi bluff? If so what size..

BTN/SB: t500 25 BBs
Hero (BB): t500 25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 5 6
BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) 4 J 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60

check/calling always here

xr V semi competent's....x fold v nits with low cbet freq...x call v players who cbet give up.Simples.

Player dependent obv

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Sounds like a joke. Check/call is the only option even against 40 cbet imo. You cant really call all in after cr to 100 so it is no longer semibluff but total bluff.

Pretty gross to xr and have to fold that much equity to a shove. x-calling

i dont see any other option even coming close to this

Donk is ok

Would help if i actually read the HH right...I read it as a gutter.Chk calling is only option if we do indeed chk.I like a donk here too

Okay interesting, this isn't what I would have expected.

Let's pretend the c bet was 40

Check raising seems best to me because firstly we get loads of better hands to fold. I don't like flatting because we are OOP, and if we bink it we are gonna struggle to get value, and 84% of the time we miss on the turn and we are just going to have to fold as he double barrels so often.
In the cases where we get jammed on, we have 34.5% equity vs KJ for example, and we are getting 2:1 pot odds so its never a fold to a jam.

I'm happy to be proved wrong here, always looking for leaks to plug, but my standard play here is to check raise.

I agree that we can't really check raise when he c bets 60

^ You'd need 36% equity to break even on calling the jam and I think you have less than 34.5% vs his whole range.
And if readless why do you assume he double barrels often?

forgot that was possible for a second, that is by far the 2nd best option imo


e: if you think he double barrels alot - you know on turns you can still donk, x/raise or call as options - you don't always just have to x/c flop x/f turn, all options you have flop you have on turn, too. if he actually barrels really wide flop + turn you can just x/r turns for example

If he double barrels a lot that increases your ability to get value if you bink.

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And pretty much you will never be better than those 34,5% in case of a jam but you will be crushed sometimes - you do not even have a backdoor flush draw. So it is not really a call imo. 34,5% is one of the best scenarios. There is a ton of hands where you will be like 20-30%.

If you do like checkraising flop then you have to check/shove. It's actually not a terrible strat vs a frequent cbettor to check shove everything (though obv it's not great).

But it's better to improve your postflop play by actually having a check call range, and you can't do this with someone that doesn't brainlessly cbet atc on all flops.