Yeah - a little more self-control should hopefully help here.

On the one hand, the regs thread is off-topic anyways so some bad beat every once in a while won't hurt that much - but we also don't want to encourage every low stakes beginner to post like very time he's lost with Aces either.

Now that we're getting more and more SuperTurbo hands in here - would be great if everyone could label their threads.

Like "$30 ST - A5o in BB".

I heard someone got banned for posts in this thread.... ? but why? questions meant with all due respect of course, I thought Cutcha's points were quite valid

lol at edit. Because I have such a long history of banning people in this forum. Can you name another?

Cutcha's strategy points in the thread were fine. I don't ban people for their thoughts on card removal or betsizing however imprecise they may be.

He had recently been unbanned after promising another mod that it was his last chance and that it was OK to give him a really short leash. He then gets infracted in another forum and posts this in a strategy thread here:



He has a long history of trolling and I think he's useless. If you disagree, feel free to PM me or ChicagoRy. If there's popular demand for unbanning, let us know.

Or Newff. I hear Newff is a mod these days.

I am again now

wow, did you really ban cutchalosses for that post??

I believe there was a bit more to it than that.

Basically, Cutcha has a long history of trolling people, in particular Mers. He admitted that his previous posts raising concerns of Mers coaching abilities were just troll remarks and he was basically just jealous bc he himself was trying to coach. That is obviously well over the line. In any case, Cutcha self banned himself so the issue was fairly moot.

Then Cutcha asked to come back. He told me he wanted his account back for staking/action buying type stuff and that he would absolutely behave and contribute normally and so on. One of his online friends agreed and said that the same.

I made it clear I didn't want to have to deal with any of this drama crap troll crap etc. I'm not here to babysit or talk to people all day about if using the word ****** 12x in a post war to another poster warrants a ban or infraction or whatever. I think we're beyond that in this forum.

In any case, I let the other mods know of this with a note on Cutcha's account explaining what had happened.

So when Cutcha made that post to Mers, obviously you have to take it within the context of Cutcha's history of making up publicly damaging lies about Mers abilities (and admitting as much later), and Mers is certainly aware that I told Cutcha not to do that kind of stuff.

I personally don't care if he's back or not, but the ban clearly had some historical context within it.

And of course now I'm dragged into dealing with this garbage. One thing I say "don't troll or flame" and of course he has to say something to the one person he trolled the **** out of historically.

Anyways, besides the massive amount of IMs I've exchanged over this with Cutcha, I told him he could talk to Mers (if Mers wants to) or talk to an admin who will handle any unban or reasoning decisions. It's up to Mers and/or admins what happens.

This is all pretty ridiculous to me though, reading through it again I really feel like crap for wasting so much time on such a stupid thing. It's really really simple, people are hardly ever banned here, I think besides bot spammers the last banning was somebody who scammed a mod and a regular user of this forum, I can't recall any other bans in the last few months.

He should've trolled someone else than a mod I guess. But you should be able to handle criticism without using your powers as a mod anyway. I can think of a bunch of other trolls that aren't banned.


Where does this ban fit into this line? I'd like some consistency. Please unban Cutchalosses because this doesn't feel right at all.

Can some1 please update the starting post, so that the new wells, pooh bahs and other solid threads are in? If those threads get bumped off the first couple of pages ppl might miss them, or lose track.

Or they could stick it for a moment.

He was initially not punished for his remarks. He then admitted that his remarks were flat out lies, that he did not believe what he was saying when accusing Mers of ripping people off/scamming people or whatever in that thread. That alone would've been a permanent ban, you don't call people scammers and deliberately try to hurt them (any coach in any forum) then admit you were just selfishly lying and not get banned.

But in his admission he requested a self ban, so the situation had resolved itself at the time.

Then he asked nicely to come back, I said fine, just don't troll, he said sure no problem I won't make any troll comments. Then apparently he trolled Mers and Mers banned him.

If he would've done the same thing to any coach in the coaching listings or any coaching in this forum (whether it was a husng.com coach or brokerstar or kongs or moshman) or any forum he would've been banned originally (but he banned himself first). I don't know how I can make that any more clear.

In any case, I can't unban him even if I wanted to, since Mers made the banning it's up to him and the admins, not me (moderators cannot undue other mods decisions without that mod's consent or the admins giving the green light).

Don't feel if this is right, read what happened. Look at cutcha's posting history, particularly in March. Tell me why he should still be around, why he's being treated unfairly? Maybe he can come back, I don't know, if Mers and/or admins decide that fine, but I sure as hell am not going to bat for a guy that treats other community members this way. I don't know why you would either.

If others feel this way, definitely post. Especially if he's made contributions that I've missed.


I have no history at all of abusing mod privileges or running to a ban too quickly (and I've gotten into plenty of spats with other users), other than reading every single one of yaqh's frequent deleted posts. CL was a poster who was explicitly given a very short leash before unbanning, and then picked up his 4th infraction in the last year (none of those were related to me) and then this would have been his 5th.

His other posts in that thread were actually probably the biggest contribution he's ever made to this subforum so that's a little ironic.

I'm happy to let Mat rescind the ban if he feels I was too harsh.

Here, I did it for everybody to see. Here are his posts in Mers FastTrack thread. I didn't want to ban him at the time because I felt it would look biased/conflicting. I think that was a mistake in hindsight and I shouldn't be such a wimp when it comes to something like the below (but you tell me if you disagree and why please).

Note: The above was clarified in the thread.

There you have it. 22 posts out of the first 100 were from Cutcha. I've never seen trolling of this level in this forum, have you?

Yeah, it's pretty bad indeed, I can see why you put him on a short leash. I however do not believe any leash to be short enough to ban him for "What are your actual claims/assumptions on this hand since we are all telling you ours for free and ur prolly gonna make some $ off this article?".

For all you know he's a genious leveller and if he isn't levelling I still don't see this as a bannable or even infractable offense. I know nothing about 2+2's policy though.

It's kind of silly to let a poster back on a really short leash, and then infract them twice. Any infraction would probably have been a ban.

If you plead for your account with another mod and promise you'll be squeaky clean and then you can't go two weeks without picking up two more infractions, and nobody can come up with anything constructive you've done ever, it's a pretty common gtfo.

+1

+1

Mod(s) seem a bid too sensitive when someone speaks his mind about them imo.

Seems a little odd that I wouldn't have reached for an infraction or a ban with all the other people who have spoken their mind negatively about me, if that were the case.

U banned me 3 mths. ago, Ryan. Am I the regular user u r referring to?

BTW, nice stash, new look there. I like!

No, it was somebody else (you didn't scam a mod and a forum regular too did you?).

Did I ban you? I only see an infraction from me, but maybe I didn't make a note. You've certainly improved your posting in my eyes (and haven't seen any post reports from users here about you), I see a lot more serious strategy and a lot less arguing/off topic in the strat threads. Dare I say you're becoming an asset?

I was banned for a few days for trolling..not sure if it was u tho. But anyways, yeah, no more childish stuff from me, it's all business (as I said back then when the forum regs ganged up on me). I do hope I'm becoming an asset, a few have already mentioned so. Thanks for the positive lean!

i've been a member for 3 months. srsly am i the only one that thinks so ?

hes a pretty clever troll imo.

I think you're having issues counting. try using your fingers.