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06-01-2013 , 08:21 PM
Oh yeah the kite runner, a thousand splendid suns are really good. A slightly different book about islam is the reluctant fundamentalist. All of these I would recommend.
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06-01-2013 , 08:28 PM
Sure, there are so many great books that one can never read them all, kind of like music, we don't live long enough. But yeah, I can't think of one bad book someone has mentioned here so far, all terrific.......as for some pre-islam arabic stuff, 1001 Arabian knights was good (not just for kids), also shows how people lived in those days.
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06-01-2013 , 08:32 PM
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i mostly read classics, read most of dostojewski stuff some tolstoi, german classics alot. not so much english stuff, wouldn't mind, though. i liked infinite jest alot which is prob the most recently published book i read last 2 years.
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Dostoyevsky is my favourite author.

I wanna get into some Nietzsche, you probab

Seems like you like classics, so I suggest getting into Ernest Hemingway, Mark Twain, Jane Austen, Charles Dickens...

I'm reading 'the curious incident of the dog in the night-time' right now, pretty good. 'Kite Runner' was my last book, that was good too. 'Catch-22' before that, that was awesome.

@stone: 'To kill a mockingbird' was my fav until I read 'Crime and Punishment'...Truman Copote apparently helped Lee write that book, or so they say.

I like most of the selections mentioned, Duncelanas books I was into that stuff for a while, really powerful stories, stuff from Ray Bradbury, Kurt Vonnegut Jr. etc.

@BertieWooser: Don Quixote is probably my next novel, I should have read it years ago...
In your and Yay's opinion, is C+P Dostoyevsky's best novel? Only asking because I was pretty underwhelmed by it, but my Dad will not shut up about The Gambler and Brothers Karamazov, and I'm unsure about whether or not I should read them.
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06-01-2013 , 08:59 PM
I've read all 3 and I thought Crime and Punishment was the best. The moral issue of murder, mental decay, and how it was written were powerful I thought. But it's very introspective right, and goes into long passages where Raskolnikov is stuck in his own mind. The other 2 are less about morality and mental problems and more about society, so you may like them better, they are terrific stories for sure!
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06-01-2013 , 10:06 PM
random one, but why do americans still waffle on about rite to bear arms? I know it is in the constitution yet it is so outdated. I understand that they keep this rite as if the government turns into a dictatorship they will be able to defend themselves. However look at civil wars across the world, having hand guns and assault rifles would be zero form of defence against a government that turned on its people. Americans refusing to tighten gun control laws are so ******ed. I love America, have been vegas 25 times plus Ca. Ny. Fla, and various other states. Yet there seems to be so many thick people there, my brother married an American woman and now has a yankee passport, he offered to sponsor me to live in NYC, I almost went but was wondering how I would cope with so many deranged people with fake illnesses and fake ailments etc, then DOJ banned online poker....maybe I was the only one to benefit from this! having loved visiting the states for a long time I went snowboarding in Canada 2012, my first trip to Canada and anybody who likes the states who hasn't visited Canada give it a go, like a slightly smaller version of USA but the people have more brains and less ******ed
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06-01-2013 , 10:08 PM
also for people who like to read a book and are interested in ancient rome....

The Gates Of Rome is the first novel in the Emperor series, written by author Conn Iggulden.

First ten people who read it if they don't rate it as amazing I will player transfer you the cost of the book on pokerstars, if you think it is one of the best series of books you have ever read player transfer me 10 bux
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06-02-2013 , 12:07 AM
^^ strong recommendation, i'm def. gonna buy once I finish song of fire & ice, almost done 4th book
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06-02-2013 , 12:24 AM
**** it, going to lose all my cred recommending this, but if anyone hasn't read the Artemis Fowl series of children's fantasy books then you should seriously consider checking them out. Properly funny.
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06-02-2013 , 12:43 AM
lolol
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06-02-2013 , 03:07 AM
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random one, but why do americans still waffle on about rite to bear arms? I know it is in the constitution yet it is so outdated. I understand that they keep this rite as if the government turns into a dictatorship they will be able to defend themselves. However look at civil wars across the world, having hand guns and assault rifles would be zero form of defence against a government that turned on its people. Americans refusing to tighten gun control laws are so ******ed. I love America, have been vegas 25 times plus Ca. Ny. Fla, and various other states. Yet there seems to be so many thick people there, my brother married an American woman and now has a yankee passport, he offered to sponsor me to live in NYC, I almost went but was wondering how I would cope with so many deranged people with fake illnesses and fake ailments etc, then DOJ banned online poker....maybe I was the only one to benefit from this! having loved visiting the states for a long time I went snowboarding in Canada 2012, my first trip to Canada and anybody who likes the states who hasn't visited Canada give it a go, like a slightly smaller version of USA but the people have more brains and less ******ed
2 things here.

1) I fully agree with you. The logic of using something that doesn't apply to today's times is not there. As I mentioned in a previous post, it's akin to saying people can have air force fighter jets and nuclear subs today.

2) A lot of the problem is that the people that own guns, by and large, are responsible and people don't die as a direct result of their actions. Most of the gun violence in this country is from illegal weapons, and in urban areas. So the responsible gun owners say "hey, I'm not breaking any laws, I'm responsible, why should you take what has been a right in this country since the creation away from me?" Now, there's also a distrust between gun owners and anti gun people. Many anti gun people don't care if someone wants to own a gun. They just see it as "no guns = less crime." And honestly, I think those people are also incorrect. But the level of distrust on both sides, and neither side caring as much about facts as they do about getting their way, it's just created the cluster**** that you seen in American society.

I don't know what you do from here though. You have hundreds of millions of guns already sold. You can't take them back. You have a huge demand for guns both legal and illegal, you have terrible drug laws that just push the demand for illegal guns (that cause most of the violence) to skyrocket. Ironically, the people that support gun rights are often the same that support heavy punishment for illegal drugs, rather than decriminalization.

On the other side you have people who have no issue with over restriction. They have no issue with taking things away from people and taking people's rights away, even if the basis of which they are operating on is not entirely supported by fact.

Like I said, it's a cluster****, and a pretty ugly example of one type of failure in our society.

As for the rest of your comments, I think they are biased and ignorant, but if you have any facts beyond a small sample of your own experience, I'm entirely open to hearing them. I don't say that because I'm pro america and think americans are better than everyone. I say that because I don't think there is really that big of a difference between people in the way you claim.
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06-02-2013 , 03:26 AM
http://www.doc88.com/p-245589814886.html

^Here you go. Not sure if this is allowed to be posted here... If not pls edit. You can find the other books in the related links in the bottom right hand corner (technically not a torrent, or p2p).

I never got the gun law in America either. Watched a few Alex Jones clips on youtube... and just wow- the comedy value! We have to thank you guys for taking Piers Morgan away from us though.

Also the pill popping culture was a real shock to me. All these children being fed drugs to alter their behaviour and what not.
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06-02-2013 , 08:20 AM
I wrote post at 3am when drunk so some comments may have been a bit extreme. However in America you really have just two political parties of any significance, in the UK we have 3 plus a couple now coming thru who make a bit of a stir. So in the UK we tend to get those pro, those against and others inbetween and those who can moderate. I think that is why progress on gun laws in USA will be slow, the mentality by most that it is black or white.

Not American bashing but here is a story about something that I doubt would happen in many other countries in the world, especially when it happened around 6 years ago.

The story of scooter man...

Playing a tournament at Caesars and on the table was a guy we had seen whizzing around on an electric scooter several times, we named him scooter man. After a break we all went and sat down at the tables, scooters get in the way in the tournament area so people would park them at side then walk towards the tables usually very slowly. As the first cards after the break were being dealt scooter man was not at the table, then I saw him racing towards the tournament area on his scooter, park it up then RUN to the table to try and avoid getting his hand folded. Other the coming days I paid more attention to scooter people and realised many were just people too lazy to damn walk. This is outrageous and I dread the day when people in UK get this mentality. Conversation around poker tables in Vegas in my experience when with americans is about food mainly, when with people from other nations much more diverse and no one subject in particular which is educational and refreshing. Many times I would fly out to Vegas to play 1/3 cash for a week or so just to get drunk and speak to people from all over the world that I did not know and winning or losing wasn't a factor.

(note, never play a cash game in Vegas (lower stakes players) where hardly anybody on the table is drinking alcohol. If you get sat at such a table for $10 someone who works in the card room will move you to a table full of drunks or at least alcohol drinkers!)
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06-02-2013 , 09:12 AM
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**** it, going to lose all my cred recommending this, but if anyone hasn't read the Artemis Fowl series of children's fantasy books then you should seriously consider checking them out. Properly funny.
read them when i was a young teenager, def great books.

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better than harry potter
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06-02-2013 , 09:34 AM
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In your and Yay's opinion, is C+P Dostoyevsky's best novel? Only asking because I was pretty underwhelmed by it, but my Dad will not shut up about The Gambler and Brothers Karamazov, and I'm unsure about whether or not I should read them.
Yeah, Crime and Punishment is prolly the best, all of them good, Idiot too, also would recommend Short stories from him.
I guess Siddhartha from Hesse would be my favorite of all times.
Love the way Milan Kundera writes, before the french period, The Unbearable Lightness of Being is the book that got him the Nobel prize.

For those who enjoy Russian authors I can recommend a few writers from Balkans , like Mesha Selimovic , Death and the Dervish , The Fortress, Ivo Andric Damned Yard , Bridge on the Drina, Bora Stankovic Impure blood
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06-02-2013 , 09:38 AM
i really liked the house of the dead, c+p is prob his best i guess, or brothers k. brothers k might be better, but it's much harder to access
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06-02-2013 , 05:16 PM
I really enjoyed Brothers Karamazov, but haven't actually read C+P so not much basis for comparison. Not enough SF/F discussion itt imo though, definitely best genres for some casual pleasure reading.

Just ordered a kindle yesterday pretty excited (touch crapped out after a couple years and I'm already tied to that Amazon ecosystem...).
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06-02-2013 , 10:40 PM
I'm gonna be buying a kindle soon, which one is good? I don't need anything fancy, and I see different prices, some as cheap as $70.

I'm looking at the Kindle Paperwhite for ~ $140.

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06-03-2013 , 02:46 AM
I'd recommend the $199 3G model - I have an old 3G "kindle keyboard". The usefulness of a totally free 3G global internet browser is insane for a one-off purchase, for anyone that travels at all.
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06-03-2013 , 06:06 AM
@Dave: Too late, already bought the non-3G kindle! Not too bad tho, I can download for free...guess I just have to plan ahead when I'm on vacation.

Roy Hibbert got fined $75K for saying "No ****" and "You mother****ers" (I guess 2p2 asterisks show their PC stance too). This is too much PC bull****. Believe me, no one takes offense to either these statements...I wonder in 50 yrs. we probably won't even be able to look at a girl's tits without some PC nanny calling it sexual assault. People are becoming sensitive pussies I think.

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06-03-2013 , 06:38 AM
i have the paperweight without 3G
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didn't see the 3G model while browsing amazon

but i don't think the 3G is that important, atleast not for me.
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06-03-2013 , 08:02 AM
Do you mean if it says 3g with a kindle or tablet
That its free internet?
You dont need to purchase like a montly internet subsciption?
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06-03-2013 , 08:13 AM
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Do you mean if it says 3g with a kindle or tablet
That its free internet?
You dont need to purchase like a montly internet subsciption?
That's right.

But I also find browsing the net at kindle not very convenient. Although yea, if u travel a lot, I think it's worth it maybe.

And same as yay have paperwhite. But only because I read a lot at nights.
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06-03-2013 , 06:00 PM
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@Dave: Too late, already bought the non-3G kindle! Not too bad tho, I can download for free...guess I just have to plan ahead when I'm on vacation.

Roy Hibbert got fined $75K for saying "No ****" and "You mother****ers" (I guess 2p2 asterisks show their PC stance too). This is too much PC bull****. Believe me, no one takes offense to either these statements...I wonder in 50 yrs. we probably won't even be able to look at a girl's tits without some PC nanny calling it sexual assault. People are becoming sensitive pussies I think.

Many people hold popular figures on a pedestal, so when they say something like that it all comes crashing down.

Kinda silly, but it's that silliness that also drives millions of sales for $100 jerseys of these guys.
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06-03-2013 , 09:04 PM


You go girl!!

Spoiler:
It took me half an hour to find out how to embed the f***** video
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06-03-2013 , 09:46 PM
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Do you mean if it says 3g with a kindle or tablet
That its free internet?
You dont need to purchase like a montly internet subsciption?
Amazon pays for your internet, but there is a 50MB limit and also Kindle's browser kinda sux from what I hear, that experimental browser. I am still awaiting my Kindle Paperweight (non-3G) but for me, like yay, the browser is not important. Prefer a tablet for that stuff.

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Many people hold popular figures on a pedestal, so when they say something like that it all comes crashing down.

Kinda silly, but it's that silliness that also drives millions of sales for $100 jerseys of these guys.
Yeah, it's like they are superheroes or something! Maybe that's why I don't purchase jerseys, I have a #12 Randall Cunningham classic from the Philadelphia Eagles cuz I'm a huge Eagles fan but otherwise I don't wear sports para, unless I get it for free which happens a lot!

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You go girl!!

Spoiler:
It took me half an hour to find out how to embed the f***** video
Dayam, bitch can rhyme! Respect!!

Not anywhere near as fast but I still dig this chick Azealia still for her skills

PS: Irregular, you have the best avatars!


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