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07-19-2017 , 01:12 AM

felixxx1021

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I've been playing low stakes HU Hyper Turbos on PS, I've been focused on 100% exploitative play right now, I am going to study
"GTO" until I move up on stakes or maybe not. My question is if a player plays ''GTO' vs exploitative play is he going to make money?

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07-19-2017 , 06:43 AM

BigFredy007

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Before you start studying actual GTO strategies you should start with a studying very basic game theory, so you can answer a question like this by yourself. Imo it's very crucial to understand the very basics about GTO before actual studying strategies.

To answer your question:
GTO player's chipEV >= 0
non-GTO player's chipEV <= 0

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07-19-2017 , 07:11 PM

ChicagoRy

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What if the player thinks he's playing GTO but he's not?

What if the player is using assumptions in place of definitive data to derive their "GTO" strategy?

Those are two questions that keep edges between regs still possible at even the highest stakes, despite a focus on GTO.

I agree with Fredy, it's important to understand definitions so that you understand what you're studying.

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07-19-2017 , 11:36 PM

felixxx1021

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Originally Posted by benzrider

always gto because everyone is gto now

Is not my case, I would start learning GTO until I beat low stakes HUSNG not really sure tho
I've heard that GTO has ruined more good players than it has helped.

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07-19-2017 , 11:39 PM

felixxx1021

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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy

This is just an assumption that he will play GTO

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07-19-2017 , 11:45 PM

felixxx1021

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[QUOTE=BigFredy007;52562123]Before you start studying actual GTO strategies you should start with a studying very basic game theory, so you can answer a question like this by yourself. Imo it's very crucial to understand the very basics about GTO before actual studying strategies.

What do you mean by very basic game theory?

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07-19-2017 , 11:58 PM

SiQ

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google: game theory basics

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07-20-2017 , 12:37 AM

felixxx1021

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Originally Posted by SiQ

google: game theory basics

I wouldn't be playing poker without those concepts, and I am not saying that I want to learn GTO right now.

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