HI

I'm pretty new to these games and have seen people talking about card distribution being a factor in these games.

My understanding of card distribution is what piece of range that you and your opponents are hitting.

I'm interested in the maths and was wondering how many hands you have to play to be say 90% confident that card distribution has evened out.

I guess it would depend the size of the ranges and the effective stacks as well.

Or if anyone has any good maths on any aspect of card distribution I would be appreciative.


TIA

Evened out? As in you've had 50% of the winners?

The more hands you've played, the better the odds. You question is worded oddly. I'm not sure what you're going after.

hard to say. best way is to analyze hands where you're not sure you played it right or hands you think might be affected by just running into bad part of villains range. would just post hands where you're not sure or maybe find some sweating buddies for skype.

There are a bit over 200 different starting hands in 2-card poker (assuming AcJc = AsJs, AsJc = AsJh, etc). You'd probably want 1000 times that at a first guess.

Then there's all the different types of flops...someone else can do it

To imagine card distribution in a broad sense, imagine a poker game where every all-in situation gets equity chopped (e.g. AA v KK preflop, AA is awarded 82% of the pot and KK is awarded 18%). There would still be luck and variance in such a game, just presented a lot more subtly. That subtle variance is card distribution. It does cover what you mention (if I understand what you mean), but also a lot more.

What does this mean, exactly? Just like all-in variance malforms the green lines on our poker graphs, card distribution malforms our red lines. So asking "how many hands do I have to play to be 90% confident that card distribution has evened out" is just like asking the same question about all-in variance, and neither of those questions make any sense.

Hm, when did 169 become "a bit over 200"? This reminds me of a silly dream I had recently where PS had introduced a new game dealt from a deck of 66 cards

For hands where we get to see villain's hand, we could (try to) calculate how much we should have won or lost if both players had played correctly.

lol yeah I got mixed up with the chance of getting dealt AA, my bad

Sick story bro. Did they introduce the 5th suit? If so, what was that suited called.. stellar?

What do you mean by evened out? You mean opponent hit his pocket AA exactly once per every 221 chances or sth like this? For some players it will be 1253658595745856 hands and for some it will never even out.

It was rather incoherent, but I remember seeing cards with "15" and "16" on them, so I think it was more ranks rather than more suits.

you can run bad in card distribution over thousands of games and it's kind of unknown territory since it's so hard to make a rule for a computer to discern what is running good and running bad in card dist. the best way to go about this is to not care about your EVROI/winnings/whatever and just focus on learning and practicing how to make the best decisions in-game

169 starting hands, 19000 flops, 47 turns, 46 rivers = 6,942,182,000 hands. GL with your 234 tabling goals of 2013.

hey you could pretty much play a hand with everyone on earth

Thanks for all the replies, I didn't word the question very well.

I have seen people saying that card distribution is a big factor in the games and I was sort of thinking if you played tighter preflop it would reduce your variance due card distribution.

I guess in the end it doesn't really matter that much as neither you or your opponent can't control it.

nope.
just work on your game. If you're better than everyone else you will most likely make money. If not, tough titties