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10-21-2009 , 12:29 PM
Isn't poker by definition wanting to be deceptive in how you project yourself?
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10-21-2009 , 01:02 PM
should just lock it up here, its like a therapy session, " lets get it off our chests now guys" in response to Snorer, isnt it basically the same thing, what you are doing? if your so distraught over this then take up with him personally, this thread was for him to answer questions abotu his GAME, not his personality, and regardless of his lack of "class", im sure people want to read what he has to say about POKER.

that being said, well done =)
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10-21-2009 , 01:03 PM
SERIOUS QUESTION!!!!!!!
HOW BIG OF A FISH YOU THINK I REALLY AM????????

I WANT A SERIOUS ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-21-2009 , 01:04 PM
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SERIOUS QUESTION!!!!!!!
no way!

Last edited by Deewhizzle; 10-21-2009 at 01:05 PM. Reason: i doubt hes going to answer you.
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10-21-2009 , 04:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVmhZW1dDis

imo

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Originally Posted by Deewhizzle
im sure people want to read what he has to say about POKER.
this plz
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10-21-2009 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by livb112
Edges are obviously small in HU SNGS
Can you explain this statement a bit more because I was under the impression that people play HU so that they can increase their edge.
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10-21-2009 , 05:52 PM
Olivier,

We've never played against each other online, but we have played together live on one occasion. You were extremely low key and quiet, and it was impossible to imagine you berating someone in that environment, even in the moment, and even in response to a terrible bad beat from a total donkey. I assume the perceived disconnect between your in person and online personalities is what is enraging snorer. FWIW, I'm no apologist for snorer. I don't know him at all and have never played against him to my knowledge.
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10-21-2009 , 10:05 PM
so how about those 3betting range eh chaps?
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10-21-2009 , 11:38 PM
its funny to watch them duke it out though isnt it? nothing will ever dome of the idle threats from both sides, its a pissing contest, one that will never be settled. and its its way beyond poker now homies. /thread
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10-22-2009 , 12:31 AM
This is hilarious Keep up the good work gentlemen. FWIW I don't think anyone should be held accountable for what they say when playing HUSNGs. It's just too tilting. Temporary insanity.

Last edited by Curly Joe; 10-22-2009 at 12:39 AM.
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10-22-2009 , 06:31 AM
This is getting interesting...

LivB, I've got four questions for you.

1) What do you think of ShortSharpShock's game?
2) What would you do with 44 against a total unknown if five hands in, you raised to 90 and he 3bet to 260?
3) How important do you think exercise/sleep/eating well has been towards you overall poker success?
4) To what extent do you think HUSNGs in particular have been hurt by the recession as compared to other branches of poker?

RUM
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10-22-2009 , 01:35 PM
Great thread.
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10-22-2009 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rumnchess
This is getting interesting...

LivB, I've got four questions for you.

1) What do you think of ShortSharpShock's game?
2) What would you do with 44 against a total unknown if five hands in, you raised to 90 and he 3bet to 260?
3) How important do you think exercise/sleep/eating well has been towards you overall poker success?
4) To what extent do you think HUSNGs in particular have been hurt by the recession as compared to other branches of poker?

RUM
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1) SSS plays very well. Probably one of the most underrated HU SNG players around.

2) shove like 10%, call like 75%, fold like 15%

3) I think those things are very important but I see them as part of an overall balance that for me includes more than just treating my body well. Poker can be consuming, addictive and unhealthy for a lot of people. For it to be constructive and play a positive influence in your life, it takes work. It's crucial to fit poker into your life, not fit your life around poker. Life balance is probably the most important not strategic-related aspect of being a winning player.

4) Tough question. I think the recession has probably hit HU SNGs a little more than other forms of poker because casual players probably play them a little more.
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10-22-2009 , 09:20 PM
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Thanks for getting this back on track.

1) do you find yourself acceleratingyour thought process while tilting? or are you still able to think at a more rational rate?

2) in referance to your response
can you elaborate a little more? what do you mean by seperating playing higher/shot taking?

thanks again and nice comeback

1) I have different types of tilt. My monkey tilt is basically thoughtless. Otherwise, my thought proces doesnt really change, my ranges are a little wider and I probably try to value bet thinner and represent more hands. I see most of my tilt now as just another gear.

2) If you are a 55 dollar grinder and you see a fish sitting in the 110s and you decide to play him a few games, that is taking a shot. If you play 200 games a week and you decide to break that up 170 55s and 30 110s, the 30 110s are ur shot taking. If you one day decide that you're gonna start sitting 110s day in and day out, then you have decided to move up. I think when people make the decision to move up in stakes, they should consider more than just whether they have a big enough br.
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10-22-2009 , 09:31 PM
Livb

1) If you were able to Pick the vollyball teams again would I be picked last...... Im scarred from this summer because of that.

2) What are some of the biggest factors that separate the players playing the 345 and 570s to the 1k+ regs, as much detail as possible would be appreciated.

3) Do you think the transition from non turbos to turbos will be hard

4) Who would you like to see win the november 9 and why
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10-22-2009 , 10:00 PM
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]It's crucial to fit poker into your life, not fit your life around poker.
If you consider poker your job I don't see problem fitting your life around poker. That's what all ppl with normal jobs do anyway.
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10-22-2009 , 10:07 PM
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If you consider poker your job I don't see problem fitting your life around poker. That's what all ppl with normal jobs do anyway.
Their prolly the same people who Sigh every morning they wake up and hate there life, most of these people life in Seattle so I here....
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10-22-2009 , 10:10 PM
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hello liv im bullettooth666 on ft. as u know weve played a decent bit in the last couple of weeks. before i ask anything i want to first say that u are by far the toughest person ive played and a real challenge to play. Some questions then

1 How do you view me as a player (i understand that u probably dont want to say much specific)?

2 How do you motivate yourself to grind so much and do you have trouble staying interested in improving, playing your A game?

3 How do you envisage the future for highstakes HUSNSGs. Kind of linking to this, do you feel it is important to learn other games for someone like me who would ideally like to play poker professionally for at least 2 more years.

4 Whats your favourite book/author/band?

5 Will you ever stop sitting me?


1) I think you are a pretty good, definetly not an easy game or a mark. I only know how you play against me though so its hard for me to comment too much about you overall....Its more important how u play against other people than how you play against me imo.

2) Motivation for me has always been very easy and natural. I could never be content and I have never thought that I was particularly good at poker, and still think I have a ton of room to improve. Consistently playing my A game is a constant challenge. I can only really suggest obvious things like not playing when you're tired, upset, drunk etc. Force youself to play a little longer when you're winning and a little less long when you're losing. Dont make strict or specific financial goals.

3) Its hard for me to predict the future of high stakes HU SNGs. I cant think of any very compelling reasons why it will be very different a year from now than it is now. There will continue to be guys who win or cash big in MTTs and have insta brs and enjoy playing HU SNGs. Cash game players will continue to look down their noses at us and be overconfident in their abilities to beat HU SNGs. Some regs will be gone but some new ones will inevitably take their places.

4) Noam Chomsky is one of my favorite authors. One of his books, Manufacturing Consent, is prretty sick. I read Glen Greenwald's blog on Salon.com religiously; he is insanely smart. Brian Greene is my favorite science author, his book Elegant Universe is definetly worth taking a look at. I love 90s rap, my favorites are Big, Pac, Nas, Jay and Enimem....pretty str8 fwd. I also love classical music.

5) If you sit 1ks or above, I will probably continue to sit you. Its nothing personal but I dont get a ton of action and if I let you sit first, then you take some of my action. Also, the more I play someone, the bigger I think my edge is, and we've played a decent number of games by now.
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10-22-2009 , 10:33 PM
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Livb

1) If you were able to Pick the vollyball teams again would I be picked last...... Im scarred from this summer because of that.

2) What are some of the biggest factors that separate the players playing the 345 and 570s to the 1k+ regs, as much detail as possible would be appreciated.

3) Do you think the transition from non turbos to turbos will be hard

4) Who would you like to see win the november 9 and why

1) No I'd prolly pick Adam last because I think he would motivate himself that much more....

2) This is a very difficult question for me to answer since I don't play those levels that often. My guess is that lower stakes players are more 1-dimensional and don't adjust their games very well. They probably have a style that they are comfortable with and play it no matter who their opponent is.

3) No not really.

4) Ivey cause hes the fing man and he needs the money. No seriously, I was actually talking to Matusow about this today. I think that it would be great for poker if Phil wins. There have been a series of no name winners in the past few years and Ivey is the best known name in poker. I think it would rejuvenate some of the waning interest in poker a little bit and there's just something to the best player in the world winning the biggest tournament of the year - and I'm pretty sure he would become the alltime winningest tournament player in history in terms of money - bout time Mr. Gold didnt hold that title anymore.
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10-22-2009 , 10:52 PM
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If you consider poker your job I don't see problem fitting your life around poker. That's what all ppl with normal jobs do anyway.

I see your point. However, there are a ton of people who consider poker their job who are under 25 years old. For the vast majority of these young and impressionable players, poker can easily become something more than a job, not to mention a horrible excuse to quit school or neglect other responsibilities. Also, most of them don't know how to really concieve of a job because they havent had many of them and they say poker is their job without having concrete examples to draw from or knowing what it means to treat it as such.

In general, I do not advise making poker a fulltime job. It is extremely difficult to make it personally fulfilling. Playing poker doesn't create anything, add value to society in any real way or make a positive impact on other people's lives. It is mostly a lonely emotional roller-coaster with very little to pursue other than personal financial enrichment. Furthermore, an extremely small percentage of players can make a decent living playing poker and an absolutely tiny minority can make what I would consider real money playing poker. My general advice is to see poker for what it is. It's a card game. It's a fun game that appeals to strategic and competitive people. It should not be the focus of your life.
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10-22-2009 , 11:03 PM
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In general, I do not advise making poker a fulltime job. It is extremely difficult to make it personally fulfilling. Playing poker doesn't create anything, add value to society in any real way or make a positive impact on other people's lives. It is mostly a lonely emotional roller-coaster with very little to pursue other than personal financial enrichment. Furthermore, an extremely small percentage of players can make a decent living playing poker and an absolutely tiny minority can make what I would consider real money playing poker. My general advice is to see poker for what it is. It's a card game. It's a fun game that appeals to strategic and competitive people. It should not be the focus of your life.
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10-23-2009 , 12:42 AM
I think my questions got skipped due to the idle chat from others, but here they are again.

1. What stake/level did you struggle the most with (if any/ever)? How did you combat this struggle and move up and get past it?

2. Since tilt seems to be a prevalent theme/big aspect of your game, how do you de-tilt in the middle of a match? or do you simply continue to play through it and use it for its benefits, as an added game dynamic to get into a leveling war/skewing betting/calling ranges?

3.If so, how did you do develop your psychoanalytical reading of opponents thought lines to achieve such success?

4. Was there ever a time where you thought you wouldn't make it (confidence just shattered)? And how did you get yourself back on track? Specific stories/instances might be useful. Again, thanks for the thread.
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10-23-2009 , 12:49 AM
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In general, I do not advise making poker a fulltime job. It is extremely difficult to make it personally fulfilling. Playing poker doesn't create anything, add value to society in any real way or make a positive impact on other people's lives. It is mostly a lonely emotional roller-coaster with very little to pursue other than personal financial enrichment. Furthermore, an extremely small percentage of players can make a decent living playing poker and an absolutely tiny minority can make what I would consider real money playing poker. My general advice is to see poker for what it is. It's a card game. It's a fun game that appeals to strategic and competitive people. It should not be the focus of your life.
this paragraph should be a sticky.
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10-23-2009 , 03:06 AM
Beautiful. Great answers livb. You might not know this but you're actually a hero to most sng players, being the king of sharkscope and all. My question is how did you get so good, meaning:

How do recommend that a player work on their game? Reviewing hand histories? Reading books? Watching videos?

Is it extremely important to have optimal push/calling ranges memorized if you're playing HUSNGs?

And, I understand you asking to get your own chat banned, i''ve been there myself even though i'm def not an aggressive person. HUSNGs are just so f'ing tilting. And of course, insulting other players only increases one's own tilt. Losing 45% of one's games to players who one feels are clearly inferior is tough to take. Especially when there's significant money on the line There probably isn't another human endeavour in which so much is at stake yet a total novice can achieve an almost 50/50 result with a world class player.
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10-23-2009 , 04:42 AM
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In general, I do not advise making poker a fulltime job. It is extremely difficult to make it personally fulfilling. Playing poker doesn't create anything, add value to society in any real way or make a positive impact on other people's lives. It is mostly a lonely emotional roller-coaster with very little to pursue other than personal financial enrichment. Furthermore, an extremely small percentage of players can make a decent living playing poker and an absolutely tiny minority can make what I would consider real money playing poker. My general advice is to see poker for what it is. It's a card game. It's a fun game that appeals to strategic and competitive people. It should not be the focus of your life.
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this paragraph should be a sticky.
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