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09-08-2009 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by The Camel
Maybe I am over sentimental, but I would rather that than being over cynical.

I just don't see (and will never see) why anyone would berate and insult an opponent. And for one of the biggest winners in online poker to do it is almost breathtaking. If nothing else, it is bad for business causes animostly and will lead to players either quitting you or playing better against you.

I apologise for suggesting Stars took your chat away, I think you 've made a very wise move and applaud you for doing it.

Obviously I forgot skilled. Apologies for that, but if I had to have my entire bankroll on one player winning one heads up match against anyone, I would pick Genius.
tbh i think this is wrong and i think his chat has gotten him action
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09-08-2009 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TGSM89
Hi livb

nice thread, props

what do you think of da_prof's game?
+ tbags game
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09-08-2009 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by xSCWx
I really wish they didn't take anyone's chat away. Verbal domination is half the battle.
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Sir, you are an idiot.
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That's the spirit!
QFHilarity
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09-08-2009 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Grow
QFHilarity
awesome
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09-09-2009 , 03:59 AM
A) How many girls have you boned? (Hookers do not count)

B) What specific aspect of life do you intuitively feel is necessary for me to focus on improving most

C) Would you berate someone to their face the way you do online?


If you have time to pm me any insider tips on the water industry please do so
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09-09-2009 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Freakg
thanks for this thread

i just want to ask one thing: how do you keep your head up and focused when running bad/breakeven for long periods?

sharkscope.....
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09-09-2009 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by livb112
sharkscope.....
LOL!

awesome answer.

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09-09-2009 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Drakulah
Hey Liv, thanks for doing this.

1. Would you care to comment on Jovial Gents and Chapmoney's game?

2. Are you only child or have any siblings?

3. Which 1 person would you pick as your inspiration in just life in general.

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1. I have a ton of respect for Jovial's game. I think he is one of the toughest people to play. He reminds me of Genius a little bit in the sense that they are both very well rounded, creative but ultimately solid players. They seem in total control of themselves emotionally, rarely make mistakes and are capable of almost any play during a game. That being said, their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong, or as fast, as I can be.....Chapmoney is a good player though he can tilt at times. He's fearless and doesn't back down from a challenge.

2. I have an older brother who is 3 years older and works as an analyst at a hedge fund in NY; hes very smart and successful and we get along very well. I was just the best man at his wedding this summer.

3. Bill Moyers - mainly for his unquestionable integrity combined with a deep committment to serving his fellow man.
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09-09-2009 , 07:50 PM
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I have a ton of respect for Jovial's game. I think he is one of the toughest people to play. He reminds me of Genius a little bit in the sense that they are both very well rounded, creative but ultimately solid players. They seem in total control of themselves emotionally, rarely make mistakes and are capable of almost any play during a game. That being said, their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong, or as fast, as I can be.....Chapmoney is a good player though he can tilt at times. He's fearless and doesn't back down from a challenge.
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09-09-2009 , 09:00 PM
Liv how come u 3 bet some much at 25bbish? Vs someone who minraises like 80% of buttons how do you construct your 3x 3 bet range vs your 3 bet shoving range, what tendecies alter your frequencies in this spot. I've never really thought it about it too much, although it makes sense to want to have a 3x 3bet range to gain more money from the top end of are 3 bet shove range. How to construct my 3 bet range compared to my 3 bet shoving range Im unclear about.
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09-09-2009 , 09:02 PM
Oh and thanks for doing this thread. I PMd u about coaching so get back to me if u can.
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09-09-2009 , 10:00 PM
cool thread, thanks for your time to respond livb
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09-10-2009 , 08:10 PM
hey livb im still confused that u only play 1 tbl at the time, is that really true ?

i mean u can on av only play only like 4 husngs in 1 hour.

did u really single tabled like 95-100% of the time ??


bad en
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09-10-2009 , 11:53 PM
livb,
I have noticed you have been playing paulgees a lot and from the looks of it has been beating you BAD! i played him a lot on cake and couldnt beat him... so do you think he is one of the better HU sng players even though he is from cake?????
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09-11-2009 , 04:02 AM
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hey livb im still confused that u only play 1 tbl at the time, is that really true ?

i mean u can on av only play only like 4 husngs in 1 hour.
At low stakes if you play FT turbos you can get 7-10 in an hour, Im averaging 7.2mins a game. At $ridiculous stakes like $5000 I cant imagine the tables fill up fast enough to 2 table that often anyway. But im a Brit so I don't see traffic during US peak time so could be wrong
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09-11-2009 , 09:48 AM
ya even at the 1k limit u have to wait sometimes
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09-11-2009 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by livb112
That being said, their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong, or as fast, as I can be.....
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Your question about tilt seems to assume that some qualities r positives and some r negatives and we r simply a sum of our individual qualities...that I could somehow juse subtract tilt out of my game and still be the exact same player just minus that deficit. I think its more complicated than that, however. I've dedicated a lot of time and effort to learning poker and in particular HU SNGs. I am an extremely competitive, passionate and intense person. The same qualities that lead me to play tilt r the ones that motivate me to compete in the first place. If I make up for my tilt in any emotional way, its by being competitive and motivated to win. From a strategic standpoint, its pretty easy to take advantage of having a tilting image. I definetly fool myself sometimes, but I've learned to use it to my advantage and my when I'm mildly tilting I actually play better against some styles...
livb's level is like on another ****ing planet... my mind is blown by these responses

Good to know that if poker dries up you could become an author
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09-11-2009 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by livb112
That being said, their strength and their speed are still based in a world that is built on rules. Because of that, they will never be as strong, or as fast, as I can be.....
quoted again for utter awesome.

ty for this thread.
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09-17-2009 , 11:53 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't care about being classy in poker? He could be a baby rapist for all I care. When you are playing poker for a living it is about making money, not making friends.
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09-17-2009 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by xSCWx
Am I the only one who doesn't care about being classy in poker? He could be a baby rapist for all I care. When you are playing poker for a living it is about making money, not making friends.
Why can't you do both?
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09-17-2009 , 12:06 PM
fwiw i couldnt careless if hes a dbag or not. i respect the fact that hes made more money than 99% of the people playing HUpoker, i respect that hes noticed that the way he acts sometimes is not really that cool, but that its part of who he is and he can only apologize so much. imo who cares if someone berates you in chat on a poker website, sometimes its aggravating, but all in all its poker, and it shouldnt bother you that much, in fact im kicking up my trash talk in chat to induce the millions....

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09-17-2009 , 12:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that like half this forum has livb on their AIM list, but I don't think that any of them added him because of how classy he is. Do you guys think this thread would have 147 replies if he was break even but just really classy? I don't.
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09-17-2009 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xSCWx
I'm pretty sure that like half this forum has livb on their AIM list, but I don't think that any of them added him because of how classy he is. Do you guys think this thread would have 147 replies if he was break even but just really classy? I don't.
QFT

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09-17-2009 , 12:13 PM
Some people operate on a set of morals that find it childish and rude to threaten people's lives and the lives of those close to them, even if it's on the internet in the heat of a game of poker.

Other people find the same stuff hilarious.

The latter group are usually filled with less mature individuals, but I think most people are going to be leaning towards one of those two camps.

I've done plenty of silly and immature things in my life. I can't think of any of it that I couldn't do without and I would probably regret almost all of it if I knew the impact it had on other people's lives. I think that's really the point, you can get a little more sappy about it and live with Camel, but it's almost sad when people tell me I should get aids because my AQ beat their AK 8bbs deep AIPF.

On the other hand, that stuff doesn't bother me one bit and probably actually tilts the opponent quite often, as livb has mentioned losing money due to tilt plenty of times.

But as the person doing the harassing, I can't see how it wouldn't make you feel pretty crappy about yourself if you knew how the other person felt about your baseless, unprovoked attacks. Provocation is another story altogether, we'll leave that one for the psych forum to deal with.
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09-17-2009 , 12:35 PM
I think I probably have my life threatened on a weekly basis in poker. I have no idea how it is possible for someone to be able to handle the variance of poker but not be able to handle the variance of some dude's angry words.
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