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09-06-2009 , 05:12 PM
My breakeven stretch on FTP was a combination of multiple factors. One obvious one was variance. Variance comes in all forms. Sometimes you run good for a while and then everytime you move up, u start to run bad. Thats one thing that happened to me. Also I was battling ITF and he beat me pretty badly. We didnt play that many games but in 5ks its easy for a small number of games to dwarf your profit. I also started playing on Stars during this time and moved most of my online br there. That made me underrolled on FTP which thru normal variance swings would bust my account repeatedly. That got embarassing and frustrating and I would tilt and play badly etc etc....I also lost my confidence on FTP after a few thousand games and even though I was doing well on Stars, I just had no confidence on FTP. I can't understate how importance confidence is. Edges are obviously small in HU SNGS and confidence can easily make the 2-3% crucial equity difference.
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09-06-2009 , 05:14 PM
what do you think of stevesbets and his style?
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09-06-2009 , 05:17 PM
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why don't u post on 2p2 more often?

@ camel, tilting is irrelevant to how much u have won previously, some people tilt really hard at small things, so ya not really sure what answer u expect from OP.
how do you scam people and still have the nerve to post in this forum?
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09-06-2009 , 05:20 PM
livb112 you are the man! i hope one day there is a legend about me throwing my monitor out the window. hopefully, the legend isn't/won't be true in either case.

either way though, thanks for this thread!
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09-06-2009 , 05:23 PM
If you were going to play a 3v3 vollyeball match with Yourself, Me, Skilled, Dibasio, Croixdawg, and Raj (Whaaasssuppp), who would you pick to be on your team and what do you think the score would be ;p



No really though, very cool of you to do this, im sure alot of people appreciate you taking the time to help out. From what you know about me and from talking strat / helping out, what are the top 1-2 things you would reccomend to me to keep improving or be able to achieve a higher winrate.


Also, what is your favorite type of food, do you plan to continue to play a solid volume of live MTTs, and what's the coolest / favorite place you've ever been (on vacation, or just wherever)
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09-06-2009 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by livb112
My breakeven stretch on FTP was a combination of multiple factors. One obvious one was variance. Variance comes in all forms. Sometimes you run good for a while and then everytime you move up, u start to run bad. Thats one thing that happened to me. Also I was battling ITF and he beat me pretty badly. We didnt play that many games but in 5ks its easy for a small number of games to dwarf your profit. I also started playing on Stars during this time and moved most of my online br there. That made me underrolled on FTP which thru normal variance swings would bust my account repeatedly. That got embarassing and frustrating and I would tilt and play badly etc etc....I also lost my confidence on FTP after a few thousand games and even though I was doing well on Stars, I just had no confidence on FTP. I can't understate how importance confidence is. Edges are obviously small in HU SNGS and confidence can easily make the 2-3% crucial equity difference.


Soo true, I often have confidence battles in websites and constantly am moving my BR from PS to FTP, FTP to PS.

My questions: There was a poster a few months back I think his SN was Im23nIboughta350khouse and he was keeping his identity secret but was answering HUSNG questions for all of us and also claiming he was the best HUSNGer around. My guess is it was you but I doubt your that young, anyway was that you?

Also, the WCOOP $25,000 HU event in 6 days looks like it has such an easy field with moneymaker and elky and all those PS pros that probably suck HU(no offense if they read this lol), how excited are you to play it, and do you do anything to prepare for such an event like look over all old HH of some of the registered players on the list?
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09-06-2009 , 05:36 PM
Hey liv!

1, Which turbo structure do you prefer, Stars/FTP

2, When you play on FTP, do you use the racetrack or classic layout

3, The 3 toughest hu sng players on FTP that you've played against recently

4, After you play other winning players. Do you ever spend time studying their game afterwards or do you just take notes during the game?

Thanks
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09-06-2009 , 05:38 PM
I think there is a lot to be said about your personality matching with your general style of play. If I tried to do what Dibasio does for example, I'm not sure I would be a big winner and I'm 100% sure I wouldnt win nearly as much as he does. He is just incredibly good at what he does and it takes a slightly different skill set from what I do, even though we're both playing HU SNGs.

I generally play one table at a time. I am usually very focused on the table and am trying to customize how I play to my opponent as much as I can. Paying attention like this allows me to see patterns in terms of opponents, styles, betting etc that other people playing multiple tables could never pick up on. I intuitively and at this point pretty seemlessly can put players into different categories and have set strategies against different types of players. This includes both fish and winners.

Ill give an example of a fish. Lets call him dbag since this style of play infuriates me sometimes. Everyone who has played HU SNGs for a while has played dbag in one form or another. He NEVER folds. He calls like every raise oop. He calls every flop bet. He makes all types of weird river bets, esp if u check the turn. Seems to not understand any basic poker concepts like wtf a value bet is or a bluff. You end of calling with K hi only to be owned by a totally random and logicless A hi bet. As you get angier and play more aggessively, he only seems to get more stubborn and get better hands. I think you get the drift.... There are many different ways to exploit dbag. Some small examples are: instead of raising pre, cbeting the flop, chking turn when uve missed and folding to a river bet; try changing your pattern. Start only betting flops when u hit, then chk almost any turn and then let him outplay himself on the river. Start checking back flops when u miss and putting ur cbet on the turn instead of flop. Start raising his river bets... both for value with marginal hands and with air and obvoiously monsters. Many players clam up against this type of player and play super str8 fwd abc poker. This will win marginally over the longrun but there are many much more profitable styles vs dbag.

Earlier I used the term winners instead of good players because I think many winners are very exploitable. In some cases, even more exploitable than certain types of fish. This can get in depth and complicated but the main reason for this has to do with predictability. One analogy I like to use is with school. Everyone knows that there are plenty of people they were/are in school with that got very good grades but that they don't necessarily think were very smart. Those people worked hard, and essentially kew how to work the system. I see many regs in this way. They have "figured out" how to play but can't really think on their feet, don't play particularly creatively and revert to very predictable patterns when they are challenged or presented with plays they are not accustomed to seeing or expecting. I make a lot of mistakes when I play but I can make up for them by playing unpredictably, creatively and by understanding the rational foundation for how most people think about what they're doinrg.
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09-06-2009 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Royle Bluntson
My questions: There was a poster a few months back I think his SN was Im23nIboughta350khouse and he was keeping his identity secret but was answering HUSNG questions for all of us and also claiming he was the best HUSNGer around. My guess is it was you but I doubt your that young, anyway was that you?
Most insulting question in history.

That dude was a total douche, and clearly was not livb.
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09-06-2009 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by livb112
Lets call him dbag since this style of play infuriates me sometimes.
lol

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You end of calling with K hi only to be owned by a totally random and logicless A hi bet.
Story of my poker career. FML.
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09-06-2009 , 05:45 PM
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Most insulting question in history.
I've told you 100,000 times to stop exaggerating!
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09-06-2009 , 06:03 PM
Thoughts on the toughest of the $570-2k Stars Regs? Which ones do you think are terrible?

How come you stopped singing song-lyrics back to me?

How come we didn't meet at PCA?
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09-06-2009 , 06:05 PM
sorry sejje.. I didn't mean I thought it was livb for any reason, I just guessed bc the kid said he was the best in the world so I amused livb..actually was a compliment coming from my side of the story
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09-06-2009 , 06:15 PM
I think I know who that player was but no it was not me. He is a talented HU SNG player though for sure.

I don't really have a preference for one site's structure over the other though it goes back and forth with my confidence and with how good I'm running. FTP sngs tend to be quicker so I like to play more of them to iron out variance. Classic layout on FTP, im the rock....

Toughest players I've played on FTP recently r bballer88, mientjeuh, and Big Tuna JKo

Bballer is obviously sick, no realy need to explain there. Mientjeuh is def one of the best up and comers though I think this recent sick run has dwarfed his sense of variance a little bit. Big Tuna matches up well against me and is pretty thoughtful.

Someone asked me about Stevesbets. Hes a pretty unique character. I think that he can be pretty tough when hes playing well and against somone who doesn't adjust well. Him and I have played over 800x and he's lost about 220k overall playing me so I'm guessing that's why someone asked me about him. He definetly plays nonstandard but I think I've just been able to understand how he plays and how he thinks and adjust very specifically to him.

I do watch players play, but not necessarily good players, just anyone that I expect to play.
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09-06-2009 , 06:26 PM
Skates,

I dont sing cause i dont have chat anymore.

I dont think any stars regs are terrible and I don't wanan use this forum as a place to trash anyone in particular. I will say that I'm considering putting a bounty out on Scossett where I will pay (only good and winnining) players 10% of the buy in everytime they beat him. Not sure tho....

Best regs are prolly whassuuuppp and croixdawg

Idk why we didnt meet at PCA but will be there next yr.....I'll b the one winking at u...
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09-06-2009 , 06:38 PM
Hah, I feel really honored about being in top 3 of your "most recent though players" tbh. I'm aware that i'm running sick good though, especially vs you, i will never deny that, last time we played was sick indeed, couldnt lose a race at all. I'm still waiting for my downswing to come hit me in the face this year fwiw, more aware of it than you think.
I'd just like to thank you for the games we've played, you're the player i respect most and imo i learned more by playing you than any other player ever could. You're always creative and putting people in awkward/marginal spots. When I play you, your games are just fun, really cool to play because you cant fall back in standard thinking lines/spots vs you.

Enough butkissing imo, but still, mucho love from Mientjeuh and thanks for doing this <3
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09-06-2009 , 06:38 PM
wait, spamz is a newcomer? wtf i thought he/she was old guard for some reason.
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09-06-2009 , 06:40 PM
you need your chat back.

Congrats on your success. I think everyone on this forum who has played you talks about how much you force them to open up their game, and that's a pretty big compliment.
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09-06-2009 , 06:45 PM
I don't think that the 500 regs will be the same a few years from now. I think most will go broke, get burned out or move up.

In terms of cash games, I think my reputation comes from tilt and lack of game selection. I usually decide to play cash games when I'm tilting in the first place and a lot of players won't play me so the ones that do tend to be pretty good, and I only play players that sit first, I never sit first and wait. I actually think that if I focused and played when I wasnt tilting, I could be very tough at HU cash. One key difference for me psychologically between cash and SNGs is that cash is has no end point, no ultimate goal, just more money. SNGs have a ton of intermediate goals, winning each individual game obviously and that difference enables me to focus better and be more motivated to beat SNGs.
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09-06-2009 , 07:02 PM
Brian,

I would play me against all of you and give u 4-1.....

My favorite food is Kobe steak....

With you improving, I sent u an aim....
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09-06-2009 , 07:09 PM
Do you really play against "dbag" at your stakes? I've been under the impression that at your level, it's all good players and the "fish" or just good players who are trying to move up and keep getting kicked back down because they have to play against extremely strong players.
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09-06-2009 , 08:21 PM
I think that most of us play poker to make money, and in terms of HUSNGs as far as I know you are currently the biggest winner. However, it seems to me that you tilt harder than almost anyone (I don't mean this offensively, but I'm assuming based upon what you have typed in other questions that you agree).

If your tilt is a big leak then you have clearly made up for it elsewhere. What aspect(s) do you think you have excelled in the most to allow you to overcome this deficit?

-Big Tuna JKo
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09-06-2009 , 08:30 PM
What is your opinion on the turbo and regular husng's of full tilt?

Do you notice any differences/ make any adjustments to your game when you switch between the two?

How come you play both, I thought most players just stick to one or the other.
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09-06-2009 , 08:36 PM
What, in your opinion, is the most important skill that a player who can beat the lower stakes games fairly easily needs to learn to beat higher stakes games?
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09-06-2009 , 08:38 PM
how much money do you think you have lost just because of tilt?

do you have embarrassing stories from when you were starting out and didn't know what the hell you were doing?
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