I think the only obvious thing is that coffe, chadders and that fossil guy have completely failed the HU hyper community and should be hanged.

HU cash functioned perfectly fine 4-5 years ago and look at it now. What is the reason there? Cause nothing changed at HU cash software wise. It had a good run for a few years, and it got worse every month. Same is happening here, hypers had a good run, but will be getting less profitable for the majority of people cause the reg population is increasing (sure a few top players will make more money, but we can't all do it). After all the talk in this thread you still thing banning sharky would magically turn back time??

Something needs to be done but come on, you can't believe just banning sharky and not bringing in something new would make things better.

In general promos that the mass feel like they can't achieve will not get many people to push the promo. The target of 250 vs the same player seems absurdly high. Maybe a scale would work where if you rematch 10 times u get x, 20 times x and so on.

Leave it how it is, if bitches complain about queues sit some weaker regs or stfu. Fish can get games 24/7 and prob have no ****in idea about open sitting or sharky....if they do know about it they're a regfish who will buy it and we can continue to sit. More rake for stars, more action for us.


Stars if you do make a battlement type thing do it for turbo and reg speed also, not just hypers.

Totally agree with Pirus82 and yay!

Don't change lobbies to be worse!

Don't encourage autoreg programs! WTF dudes! Lets just allow bots and let them play a hundreds of games. Stop making it autopilot game and trying to save every action by using whatever software you can. Stop being so greedy (especially the high stakes regs who wins money that they couldn't even dream of by 99% others jobs in this world - asses your current status of life and be thankful for it)

HYPERS and Turbos/Regs are different games!

Promotions are good but this is bad. As stated before the number of games are to damn high and it is also only to super crazy regs. Who plays 250 games in a month vs other reg if it is not HU4ROLLZ? Anyway - different benefits for different number of games is also an option. But make sure that the promotion is for all players at husngs.

What makes you think that battlenet system will be loved by recreational players and they will love to REMATCH against one player? Most of the fish don't to rematch or they do it veeery rarely.

HUSNG players pays a lot of rake so don't hurt the game with something stupid! Grrrr almost no changes at all for so long period of time with previous 2 threads here and now these bad ideas...

I would much rather pay sharky(or w/e comes along) tax than risk pokerstars ****ing the whole thing up.

edit: the biggest problem for that is that it is currently a monopoly, and we can't be sure that the "tax" won't get bigger and bigger

I think the system Chadders suggested is probably the best idea we have at the moment.

I like the idea of capping how many people you can share with although it might be difficult to implement

Punterz who r u on pokerstars?

looks like battlenet system have a huge potential; already regwars ITT.

Having some players tagged who we do not want to play; regs therefore not playing some other regs, recs only getting to play regs who sit in wait for them. This is how I see chadders idea panning out - nothing necessarily wrong with that but why would stars go to all of the time/expense/effort of a new lobby/registration system when the outcome would be so similar to what we have today?

I think that they would have a more genuine match-making system in mind - where everyone plays everyone, or else why bother?

The only real difference would be that you could not use sharky to 'hunt' certain people but hardly anyone uses it in that way anyway.

+1

but chuck norris doesn't need sharky to get free lobbies. empty lobbies present themselves to chuck norris

"Also the game generation time such that pros aren't pitted together all the time and fish aren't waiting too long may be a hard balance to hit."

Absolutely. Your 'tagging' suggestion seems the way to go but I worry that a rec will see HU options within stars for marking certain players to avoid, possibly having to wait for a game and think "fk it, I'll play a 6-max game."

I'm not putting your suggestion down but from a rec's point of view, surely the less complicated, the better and essentially 'stars bringing some sharky features in house and making them available to everyone might over complicate things from the point of view of someone who plays maybe just a few games per week.

The options would need to be kept very simple by pokerstars if (as they would have to be) they were made available to all players.

finding the cap to the number of shares is a far easier balance to reach then reduction and game gen time to keep battlenet sustainable.


Another thing you could do with the battlenet share system is have games pop off every 15 seconds in a way where recs still play each other and regs moving up still have small chance of gettin a fish.

Take for ex 5 regs all sharing waiting, 15 seconds go by no matches no games pop off

In the next 15 second interval a reg and a fish enter the pool. You assign opponents randomly in order of least shared with, so the fish is always assigned first (or maybe the reg if he has 0 shares with other regs in pool) it's random order for people who have same number of shares. This gives the new unshared with reg a chance of gettin a fish. In the lower stakes this would give the fish a chance to play each other when multiple fish jump into a pool between game spawns. As the ratio of rec to pro decreases as you move up people are naturally pitted against stronger opponents but still have a chance of recs.

edit: obv call consent to avoid something friendly, i think i read buddy list somewhere which sounds good

How do you guys think recreationals would feel about the "consent to avoid" feature? Under the current system there is at least some level of ignorance among recs as to how much they're being hunted, if stars introduce matchmaking and the consent to avoid feature, then recs are going to know for sure that they're being hunted, since they will know when they've consented to avoid a player and their request has not been accepted as they continue to be matched with that player, I think this could be a more visible predatory system from their viewpoint than the current system actually.

by introduction of plausible denial.
Introduce an option that you have to manually activate to enable receiving avoidance requests.
That way you will never be sure that opponent has denied or has just this option toggled off.
Combined with already present possibility to block/do not read chat ...

yep, never really thought it through, good ways to make it social and non-predatory

An idea; not completely sure about it.
You can tag 10 shares permanently.
Of all remaining ones 25 a 50% of the oldest ones are automatically removed when some kind of "leaderboard" pays out.
You can only share when you played 1 match.
No need to prioritize; as those who have the highest volume are also the quickest to reinstate their shares.

Limiting shares etc, all this is doing is taking your current 2-3% roi and turning it into 0-1%. GG battlenet

I have a feeling it'd balance out after some point, since turning 2-3% roi into 0-1% will result in plenty of regs moving down and profits going back to 2-3% for the rest.

And therefore you are just left with the little groups of friends dominating the lobbies not allowing anyone else to make money at those stakes.

no,
fist step: solid regs plays a) fishes b) weak regs c) another solid regs
second step: weaks regs are moved down
solid regs plays a) fishes with more wins(nomore share with weak regs) b) no more weak regs (less wins) c) offen another solid regs (smaller pool) withouts winnings and more rake payed.
cos of 2) and 3) i think it will be allways max 1.5%

Its getting absurdly complicated, if sharky has caused more regs to move up faster cos they never have to play another reg then just ban 3rd party software cos guys will naturally move down cos they wont risk same sitting regs, stars introduce a chop option.. job done... its really that easy.

stars could buyout sharky from marko and offer it for some measly fpp amount to everyone.